I recently arranged for the team at Tryst, an advertising platform made by sex workers for sex workers, to do an AMA, Ask Me Anything Interview on the /r/sexworkers subreddit so that people could ask questions and receive responses in real-time during a four hour time window.
As a volunteer moderator on the /r/sexworkers and /r/sexworkersonly subreddits, I'm sometimes an intermediary when sex workers are having trouble with their Tryst accounts and I comment tagging the username of the Tryst representatives on reddit. They get a notification that their username has been mentioned and sometimes this helps eg to get people's ads online sooner when they're waiting for verification.
Via reddit comments, modmails behind the scenes with the Tryst team and emailing Tryst about their privacy policies for my previous blog post, I've gotten a sense that Tryst are amongst the few good guys out there running escort directories.
I'm not affiliated with Tryst, I'm not on their payroll and I suppose we're in competition, or we will be when Sexworkersearch reaches it's full potential.
But I don't mind saying, I think Tryst is the best platform out there for sex workers to advertise on right now.
They're not perfect. Tryst have their issues.
It currently takes them a month or two to verify each new account.
Scammers are, unfortunately proliferating.
Many accounts are scammers pretending to be in person providers with zero intention of ever meeting a client in person in an effort to direct traffic to online only content sales platforms like Onlyfans.
There's room for improvement but importantly, they are working hard to resolve these issues and do genuinely want to improve.
So far, Only Tryst, out of all the escort directories, has made any effort at all to ask sex workers on reddit what we think.
Megapersonals has also expressed interest in an AMA so I'm working to arrange this too.
Here is the full AMA, and here is a summary of the (anonymised) questions people asked and Tryst's responses =
How did the site become so saturated with ads of people who obviously do not offer in person services, or are scammers?
There's two parts to this!
First, there are plenty of legitimate online workers on the platform. We launched an online-only section in response to COVID-19 so providers were able to continue making a living during the pandemic without putting themselves at additional risk. Online-only workers who have put themselves in the right category belong on Tryst.
There are lots of different types of workers, and a quick glance at someone's profile often can't tell you if they're being deliberately misleading.
However, scammers absolutely do exist! They have become a growing issue on every platform, both inside and outside of the industry. Our analysis has shown that these professional scammers make up an extremely small number of our overall users, and are often incredibly sophisticated in avoiding detection.
I think some of this is because the site is growing so quickly. As we said in today's blog post, comparing March through May this year with January through March 2024, we've seen a 379% jump in new provider profiles per week, and a massive 807% jump in new clients. This has led to rapid growth in new profiles (including some of which that might be from people whose profiles look weird because they're figuring things out). The overwhelming majority of these are legitimate providers.
We're continuing to invest in a specialist team that can tackle this kind of platform abuse much more effectively. I talked a bit this a bit more in this reply. Beyond that, our platform will always be a place for many different types of workers who work in different ways.
What are you doing about OF or online only sex workers advertising as in-person?
There's a few pieces here, so I'll take them one by one.
First, I want to clearly confirm that advertising in the in-person categories as an online-only provider is against our Code of Conduct, and we consider it misuse of the platform. We know it erodes trust between clients and providers, and makes it harder for in-person providers, especially marginalised ones, to get bookings.
Our analysis so far shows that most of this activity is the work of professional scammers or PR agencies who operate many accounts, not individual online-only providers experimenting with advertising tactics. They're not sex workers at all, and they rapidly change their tactics in response to any information they gain about steps we're taking.
This means I can't be super specific about the exact steps we're taking right now, unfortunately! We know they're watching.
The short version is that we are actively investing in a specialised team to detect these bad actors without banning either online sex workers or all mention of online sex work platforms. We know that many of you do both kinds of work, and as social media gets worse, we also want to make sure there's a space left for online sex workers to advertise if at all possible.
I know that's not a super satisfying answer, but there's really so little we can say in public without giving them information they can use.
Will there be a reporting system made specifically for this issue? Like if a client or fellow worker sees the signs, or obviously is, a OF funnel account under the wrong label on Tryst can we specifically report it as such and have it go into it's own separate queue?
Our current reporting system definitely needs improvement! We're working on making it simpler to report when a profile is miscategorised or you believe it doesn't belong on Tryst.link, so our team can take appropriate action against those specific profiles more effectively.
Is there any way we (ad buyers) could eventually get access to site-wide analytics? ie, how many total site visitors, what % of them use the search function, what % of them use filters, popular search terms by region, in bound links, etc?
Thanks for the question!
We've had many thoughts about how we can help our members learn more about the markets they are in, but we don't have anything to share on that right now. We do share some stats on the blog, so keep an eye on that!
Are there any plans to differentiate between “home bases”? As a client, it’s annoying when providers list cities as their base that they’re barely in. It would be great if listings only had a single base with “secondary” or “visits frequently” cities as their additional locations. That way, people can choose if they want to filter on profiles that are permanently in a city or just tour their often. I know some providers include this in their bio, but you can’t filter on that and sometimes it’s easy to miss.
We aren't working on that right this moment, but it's on our minds (as is filtering search to find only local or only touring providers).
This is one of those features where, if we were developing it again, we'd likely make different calls on how we set it up (which is always a problem in software!)
This isn't likely to happen quickly (see other questions I've answered about locations), but it's part of a bigger tangle that we intend to unfuck.
I'm grateful for how much I've benefited from Tryst, especially in the distant past. That said, to be honest I haven't paid for Premium+ in months and I'm not looking forward to doing so with the changes to available now. For NYC, it was already starting to feel like spending the same $200 on Premium+ wasn't as strategic as before. With over 2,000 advertisers including online only workers who insist on miscategorizing themselves, the visibility from a Premium+ plan is not popping like it used to be in NYC. For NYC and other highly populated and competitive markets, I really hope Tryst can think through different ways to add more value and advantages even if understandably that comes at much higher costs to advertisers who want to opt in. Many sex workers I see minimizing the impacts of the available now change or talking about how they never bumped more than every several hours prior to the change are all in small cities. There is a huge difference between having Premium+ in a city with 100 advertisers versus having Premium+ in a city with 1,000 or 2,000 advertisers. What discussions have you all had about the severe drop off in visibility for advertisers who are based in large super saturated cities? I hope this discrepancy is addressed in the future. Thanks for creating space for our questions.
You are absolutely correct, and this is an extremely important point. As it currently stands, it's hard for providers to stand out in more competitive regions, even if they are on Premium+.
The client traffic for these regions with more workers is extremely high, so there is definite value in having exposure in these regions. However, it becomes challenging for clients to find the right fit in such a large list of providers. We need tooling that allows us to better distribute client traffic across the growing number of profiles.
There are many ways to address this, and most of them revolve around giving clients more tools to be able to filter providers into sub-categories based on preference. By encouraging more specific searches, we can create smaller pools in which providers can compete, and make sure clients can find providers that are the best fit.
We've received a huge amount of provider feedback about this. There's a small change coming soon (watch this space), and we're still exploring more options that we can build longer-term.
I would suggest is the ability to pause our ads, bc sometimes we take time away from working. Some may be only available to work a couple of weeks a month and don't need to be actively advertising all month. Another thing is to allow us to put the exact hours we are available. Having "all day" and "mid day" is very generic and kind of confusing for clients. If I was a client and saw "midday" I would only think a provider is only available noon to 5pm, whereas that provider could be available 10am to 6pm.
You can hide your ad any time you like. We designed this specifically to make sure you can control when you're visible in search, if you don't work all the time.
We don't currently have an option for pausing an active membership upgrade, but we're exploring options to make our plans more flexible for people who aren't doing sex work full-time all year. For now, you can set your upgrade to not auto renew, to make sure it doesn't try to do that while your ad is hidden.
Your other suggestion is already on our request list, and I'm making sure to add both your votes to it! Thank you!
There is another ad platform that allows pausing of ads, but you don't pay when ad is paused bc they use a daily credit system. The days you paused don't come out your credits that you bought for the month. I don't want to hide my ad while still paying for it.
I understand your frustration. We’ve done what we can to minimise the chance that you find yourself in this situation, but right now, the way the billing system works means that’s not possible. It’s definitely something I’m going to take to my team though, thank you!
What happened to by SW for SW? Tryst sarted as a safe space for sw to have a voice It seems like you are now focusing more on catering to clients. When you started, many of us veterans on Twitter promoted the brand and model during COVID as a way to help Survival SW gain better clients. We were led to believe that when we purchased the highest tier, a Survival SW account would come with a free account. What happened to that model? The website is now known for scammers and suspicious or alleged OF models making it hard for legitimate FSSW or FBSM providers to gain clients. How do y'all plan on fixing that and how can the community help y'all get back to the platform we once loved and trusted?
The mission of Tryst has not and will never change. We are, and always will be, by sex workers, for sex workers.
Your question is really important, thank you so much for asking it. I agree that Tryst is not currently living up to its full potential, and you are absolutely right to call that out.
We see it too. We are committed to continuing to build a platform that meaningfully serves and supports our community.
We know there has been a lack of clarity, and we understand that vague or inconsistent communication is not helpful, especially when our community relies on us to be transparent and accountable. We're committed to being better moving forward, and this AMA is a part of that 🙂
Tryst has gone through some significant changes over time. There are a number of reasons for this, including adapting to changes in legislation and the political environment, improving security, offering more accessible account tiers, scaling the team to manage the growth in active users, and working to create a safer and more sustainable community space.
One of the biggest issues in all of this has been our communication. We haven't done enough to clearly explain what has changed, why those changes have happened, and how they affect you. We know this has been incredibly frustrating, and we take responsibility for that. The work we're doing to improve things will take time to become visible, but we're confident it'll lead to meaningful, lasting improvements.
The founders and leadership team have asked me to pass on their thanks for your honesty, your engagement, and your patience. Please continue to be vocal. Let us know what is and isn't working. Your feedback is vital, and so is your ability to hold us to account. If you see us falling short of our values, we want to hear about it!
The Real Problem Isn’t Online vs. In-Person, It’s Traffic (And How to Fix It). First off, thank you to the Tryst team for opening this discussion. This platform has helped so many of us, and it’s clear that you care. But I want to cut through the noise and name the real issue: traffic. There’s been a lot of finger-pointing between online and in-person providers. But that debate is missing the bigger picture — if traffic were abundant, most of these tensions would disappear. When there are only 10 clients, everyone fights for them. But if there were 500, we wouldn’t need to argue over boosts and visibility. Let’s stop splitting hairs and focus on the root cause: We need more eyeballs. We need more clients. We need more traffic. So how do we fix it? Advertise outside the bubble. Other platforms advertise on Pornhub and similar spaces — why don’t we? Tryst is an incredible brand that could benefit from smart, discreet ads, podcast sponsorships, PR articles, and more. Yes, staying low-profile is part of the brand, but that doesn’t mean staying invisible. Expand revenue streams — especially from clients. Right now, providers bear the financial weight. But there’s a much larger market on the client side. Why not offer optional memberships for them too? Things like: • Access to exclusive photos/videos • A Discord community • Premium search or features Perhaps the providers could get a kickback from this too. This taps a huge pool of potential revenue and helps us build a stronger, more engaged ecosystem. 3. Monthly community town halls. Once a month. One hour. On Discord or Twitter. A space to hear updates, fast-track concerns, and crowdsource solutions. Hundreds of minds are better than five and the community wants to help. Fix traffic. Grow revenue. Build trust. Everything else is a symptom of those two problems. Let’s work together to solve the real issues and grow this platform for everyone. I’d be more than happy to do a 1:1 call with the tryst team as well if you DM me just notate it in a comment.
Whew, thank you for this! To address your three big points:
First, there's a lot of places we can't advertise because we're an advertising platform that includes full service sex workers. For example, we aren’t allowed to advertise on Pornhub. We have and do advertise on a number of podcasts (The Oldest Profession, Whore's Eye View, Somebody You Love and more), and have worked with and sponsored lots of sex worker-run events and organisations, and digital rights organisations. Our community blog, which platforms workers from across the globe, has also had mentions in various mainstream publications. We go far beyond marketing via Google and our traffic is and has always been increasing.
Second, on client revenue features: it's definitely something we've discussed. Right now, we're focused on making the provider-facing experience and product better. Improving the sign up process is our current main priority.
Finally, to your point around better engaging with the ecosystem, we fully agree. This AMA is part of us wanting to have these sorts conversations with the community, more often. Whilst we’re still exploring the shape that ongoing engagement is likely to take, more AMAs are pretty likely 🙂
Thank you very much for doing the AMA! Could you please add some more search filters? Someone who's on Tryst to scam for deposits or pretending to be an escort to direct traffic to their Onlyfans is likely to have a very low effort tryst profile with no personal website, no socials, only one contact method etc. If clients could filter search so they only see results for providers who do have a website, have socials and have multiple contact methods, that would make for a much better user experience on Tryst, make using tryst more profitable for real providers, make life very difficult for scammers and encourage more sex workers to make more effort with their web presence. ps. Will you be age gating Tryst for people accessing the site from UK IP addresses? I think the deadline Ofcom has given is 25th July? If so, what age verification method(s) will you use.
We have quite the list of filters we would love to introduce, including around contact options. We also want to encourage clients to use more filters overall because we know that more relevant search results are good for both the person searching and the folks showing up in those results.
I'll be sure to add your vote to the filters request! If you have other ideas please feel free to send them to me at [email protected]!
For your ps, I will need to run that past legal and come back to you!
I have heard from legal 😀
Short version: we're actively working on it!
Long version: We always aim to stay in compliance with new laws. While we may not agree with them, harm reduction means keeping us online so we can keep all of you online.
We're working on a pathway that keep us compliant while reducing friction for people using our platform. We have and will continue to approach our compliance efforts with user needs in mind. Provider and client privacy and safety are always what we prioritise when we make these decisions.
Has there been any discussion around updating the art on the Tryst homepage?
Yes, absolutely! Right now, we're focused on accessibility before we tackle aesthetics. We're working on a smoother signup and verification process. Improving the overall usability and look of the site is definitely on our list, and the art is part of that!
I also think it would be cool if we could post videos on Tryst as well with pictures.
Thanks for the suggestion — we agree, it would be amazing to support videos alongside photos on Tryst!
That said, hosting adult-oriented video content is extremely challenging, especially for a small, independent platform like ours. In recent years, the legal and regulatory landscape has changed dramatically. Stricter requirements around age verification, content moderation, and payment processor compliance have made things far more complex and resource-intensive.
We currently don’t have the legal or technical capacity to support video hosting in a safe, responsible, and compliant way.
We’re always thinking ahead and exploring what might be possible in the future. While video support isn’t off the table forever, we want to be honest that it’s not something we can offer in the near term.
We really appreciate your input — feedback like this helps shape our priorities, so please keep it coming!
Is there a reason y'all haven't hired more people to help with the ongoing issues, which you seem aware of? I know it isn't the only answer, but it really seems like more human moderation would help with wait times, scammers, and online only miscategorisation.
Very fair question! We have been hiring, and we're starting to see some improvements. We've worked to bring in people with cultural experience and who share our values, and make sure they're fully trained.
We've increased the size of our support team by almost 60% in the last 12 months! Part of the challenge is that we grew really, really quickly in a very short time. That rapid growth outstripped our ability to hire at a pace that matched the increase of users. We're in a place to catch up now and we are doing it!
We take care with our hiring processes to make sure we’re growing sustainably and effectively. We want to make sure that everyone has the expertise, training, and supervision needed to handle your needs, requests and your information, accurately and safely.
You're also right that it's not the only answer! We also have engineers and other specialists looking into ways to allow our existing staff to work more efficiently.
As I was actually interesting in applying I did check a few times and never saw anything listed on the site when I looked ( I may have over looked) and I would like to know how you're hiring people and is it limited to only people who live in Australia? Would you hire outside of Australia if only there at this time? I feel having people also in different countries will be super beneficial in many ways! Like more personal information about local markets as well as people active for longer periods of time, maybe who are also not subjected to your legal holidays.
Right now, hiring is limited to states in Australia and New Zealand where sex work is decriminalised or legalised, for a few reasons. We need to be able to keep our staff (and your data) safe.
We'd love to expand this eventually, and absolutely see the value in doing it! Running an international company is complicated, and even making sure that our New Zealand staff are supported and treated fairly has taken some work.
(Side thoughts from me personally, not as Tryst: I previously worked for a US company based around the world, and the contracts they used to do that were... not legal in most of the countries my colleagues and I were based in. Tryst wants to do it correctly, and in my experience that's often such an intense and expensive legal process that we're not anywhere near big enough to make it feasible.)
What is your plan moving forward with approving new photos, it literally has almost been a month since I uploaded new photos and haven’t been approved yet. I have premium plus, this drastically Hinders business especially when they are themed/seasonal photoshoots.
It sounds like you might have run into a bug or obstacle, that's unusually long given what you've described. Do you mind DMing the email you signed up with to u/Tryst_Support so Macy can have a look?
To answer your question more broadly, I've mentioned elsewhere that we've increased hiring into our support team significantly. While our first focus is getting new users onboarded and able to start earning more quickly, we also expect this hiring to improve photo processing times across the board in the coming months.
We've put up a dashboard today that shows our current wait times for new users at https://tryststatus.link/. I'm hopeful that we'll get enough information to add our photos wait times in the next few months, and that you'll be able to see that improving quickly as well.
The recent update to the “available now” feature has been controversial. I do understand and agree with the team’s position that many people misuse the feature for a purpose it was not intended for. However, it appears to me that most people are frustrated with the change because it was the only way to improve their ad ranking on the site. Additionally, many advertisers also feel that the paid subscription plans do not provide much value in terms of visibility and search priority. These considerations in mind - has the team given any consideration to increasing current subscription costs or adding a new subscription tier? Or even the opportunity to purchase ad bumps, guaranteed premium ad placements, etc.?
This is a really good one, thank you! We haven't increased the prices of any of our plans since we introduced the Premium+ plan in March 2023, because we wanted to keep the platform as accessible as possible. We also haven't made any significant changes to the plans since 2020, and the industry is definitely a different place now.
I agree that we need to look into how effective our plans are, and whether they are actually working for you, our users.
Our focus right now is on reducing wait times, but we are so keen to revisit this and work together to build something new. We know visibility is increasingly becoming a problem, particularly as more and more workers join our platform, and we're in early conversations about redesigning plans that we hope to continue next year.
Here's a screenshot list of promised features from 2020:
Are any of them in development/coming? I know I was super excited about them at the time and they'd still be such a huge help for so many of us! To not click through, the list of "coming soon" features was: FMTY label/section, live photos, duo/trio partners, videos, community forum. Also, I'm wondering about two additional features: is a pinned/paid bump section ever coming? I know so many of us would really love that and would be happy to pay a large upcharge for it! Will you ever offer analytics going further back than 30 days? 90 days, 6 months and a year or even further back would be super helpful!
I love that you have this screenshot, sincerely! Unfortunately, some of these things will likely never happen because the changing regulatory environment has made offering them extremely hard for a small company like us. It was a different (simpler) time in 2020! Other things, like FMTY, are regularly brought up internally, and we definitely have ideas about that 🙂
What are you going to do to get more traffic and make your site worth paying for? When I had premium +, it brought me ONE single client for the entire 30 day period. I didn’t renew and I won’t again. Are there currently any plans to add reviews?
To answer the traffic question: Tryst gets a huge amount of traffic. The key challenge is making sure that that traffic translates to traffic for everyone on the platform in a way that is equitable. That's a huge challenge, and everyone we've talked to has a different vision for what that might look like, especially around locations with very different populations or demand.
If that traffic isn't reaching you at the moment, we fully support your decision not to use or upgrade your Tryst account. Our dream is a world where there are plenty of trustworthy, successful platforms run by and for sex workers, where sex workers can choose the one that best suits their business! We hope to be one of many options in that world 🙂
As for reviews: we're pretty wary of them. Personally, as an intersex Asian sex worker, I've been burnt pretty hard by bad johns who've left transphobic/ or racist reviews. The last thing we want is to turn into a platform where sex workers have to be as fearful as gig economy workers often are about getting anything less than five stars if they set any kind of boundary.
To make a profile in the bdsm category is it necessary to provide bdsm services in person? Or do i qualify for the BDSM category if I do BDSM virtually? Because I do bdsm sessions on videocall.
We’re still refining how we handle online-only offerings, but here’s how it currently stands:
To offer any kind of online service, including virtual BDSM sessions (like via video call), you need to have an Online profile.
We currently have four profile types:
BDSM
Escort
Massage
Online
The Online profile is specifically for those offering services virtually. So if you're offering BDSM sessions online, you'll need to create an Online profile rather than a BDSM one.
This has actually sparked a very good conversation about how we further enhance our online only offerings, thank you for the prompt. We will continue to review how we categorise services to make things clearer moving forward.
Could you please allow providers to have profiles in multiple categories without the necessity of creating entirely separate accounts and going through the verification process twice? Seems to me if you’ve already verified my age and identity once, it’s redundant to do it again. Makes no sense. Costs precious time, which to professionals, is money. For example, I’m a FBSM massage therapist who also offers some Fetish/BDSM services. It ought to be as simple for me to advertise my services in both categories on Tryst as clicking a box or switching profiles (like we do here on Reddit, easily switching between profiles). I think I probably speak for a lot of providers here who would really appreciate that convenience! So many of us are multi-talented and shouldn’t be limited in ad reach to only one category in our local city. Thanks for reading and listening to us!
This is 100% on the list! It's going to be quite complicated to implement, so there's no timeline or promises I can make here. We're aware it's a big issue, and we're thinking longer-term about how we can design something better.
My question is, genuinely, what is the hold up? I want to understand why approval for anything moves at a glacial pace and why it isn't improving despite community complaints. Even paying members wait 3-5 days for a photo, whereas Loyalfans reviews every photo individually within an hour. It's my one deepest grievance with an otherwise wonderful app and company mission.
This is a big one. Thank you so much for waiting!
I’ll answer your actual question (why there’s a delay), but first I want to talk for a moment about what we’re doing about it. I’ve mentioned elsewhere in this AMA that we’ve increased the size of our support team by about 60%, and we’re starting to see wait times come down.
I’ve just launched a dashboard at https://tryststatus.link which tracks the average wait time for new signups, and hopefully we’ll have enough data to add photo approval in the next few months! That dashboard also records outages with various parts of the site, and we’ll update it weekly with our progress on getting wait times down.
Back to the why.
Most of it has to do with how quickly we’ve grown. The other part is how our operating model has meant a delay between that growth and us responding to it.
First, about our growth. Tryst offers one of the most competitive free plans on the market, and we ensure that every user on our platform is verified. This means there is a decent amount of labour associated with getting providers onto our platform and I don’t think any of us expected us to grow as fast as we did.
Second, we’ve often chosen stability and security over speed. We don't use exploitative labour practices, we pay a liveable wage, we hire from within the community, and we don't outsource our moderation. This means that the human labour associated with maintaining Tryst is relatively high.
Finally, we're entirely bootstrapped. We don't have the backing of billionaires or venture capital firms, and we certainly didn't have access to a big bucket of angel investor money that allowed us to scale before we saw revenue. We’ve all seen companies go sharply downhill because they have to extract profits for their investors, and we never want to be bound by that. Our growth is funded by reinvesting our revenue back into the platform.
All this has meant that until recently, our ability to hire hasn’t kept up with the number of new users hitting the platform.
I think we’re on the right track to catch up now. I’m really glad that we’ve managed to do that without selling any part of the company to people who don’t have our communities’ best interests at heart. It’s definitely been challenging to hold on to our mission and values, but nobody here would have it any other way.
Have you considered some kind of shuffle feature for listed profiles? So many providers pay for premium placement that they do not in practice receive due to market saturation. What if instead of visibility being dictated by how much we can pay for ads, visibility was randomized and all workers were given the same opportunity to be seen?
Hi! Our algorithm considers a number of different things, and we do have a shuffle built in! We add a randomising factor that changes for each visitor to the platform, so everyone has a chance to be seen. In general, this means that everyone on Premium+ who shows up in a certain search should get some time on that search's first page, even if that's not where you show up when you check.
At the moment, my understanding is that Tryst only allows each advertiser to have one type of profile: Escort, BDSM, Massage, and Online. Tryst also seems to understand that the terms of service of some online platforms do not allow for in-person work and in-person advertisers may not be in compliance if they provide links on their ads (I base this assumption of understanding on the disclaimer provided on the site which says “terms of service may vary between platforms, and you are responsible for complying with any external platforms policies and requirements.”) Understanding that there are many advertisers who do multiple types of in-person work and/or online work, could you explain why the platform does not allow advertisers to have multiple advertisement types? Are there any plans to allow multiple ad types in the future? It seems to me this would resolve the issue of online-only advertisers misusing the in-person advertisement categories and would also provide an additional revenue stream for the site (by allowing advertisers to purchase multiple ad types).
You are allowed to have one profile per category, however this means you need one account per category too. We are very aware of how much this sucks and it is something we want to improve for this and many other reasons! But because this is how the site has worked for so long, the process of un-jenga-ing the process to make this change is going to take us a little while to do and do well.
I verified my profile awhile back, and I have absolutely no idea if one day my profile will be suspended without warning. I'm afraid to submit new photos for my ad. Should I be proactive and re-send a verification photo? What are we to do on our end to keep our profile active? This is frightening for those of us who depend on Tryst for our livelihood. We have bills to pay and mouths to feed while we wait weeks for Tryst to approve/re-approve. And are you going to reimburse paid members for the time their profiles are suspended? As it is now, you're blindsiding us and taking our money without providing the service we paid for.
This concern is exactly what we want to address - ensuring your account is in good verification standing shouldn't cause you stress and make you anxious about interacting with the platform, or see you stuck in limbo for days or weeks as it is processed.
We are actively working on this specific issue, and we will be share more on this topic as soon as we can.
Is Tryst, or Assembly4, currently profitable? If not, has it ever been? If so, roughly how long has the company been profitable?
We've been profitable as long as we've been growing. We've never accepted investments, and we don’t have any external funding sources.
Sneaking in a cheeky answer to a question you didn’t ask: the profit we make is reinvested in our growing team, our platform, and the peer organisations who service our community 🙂
Despite my complaints, thank you for everything you do!! You're still the best of them all and I want you to succeed. I know you've always tried to not be as non-dependant on search engines as possible, but I record data obsessively and it seems like y'all are losing the SEO fight to other ad sites. Inside Tryst search things are great but that still feels like you're losing out. Managing a relationship with American tech companies as a SW company sounds awful, but is there anything more you can do on that end? Oh lord the pictures. Please. Like when it's a Halloween themed photoshoot, if Mariah Carey has returned but the pictures still aren't approved, that makes paying for premium+ feel not good. Y'all have been much better recently but still. Have you considered just straight up not letting people use their login email as their contact email? (With a popup explanation why when they try). Also not making authenticator optional? Apparently you did this years ago, belated thank you. Can you relax the watermark rules/update your watermarking process for AI? I've had issues with watermarks being removed from my content already, and AI makes it much easier. I haven't seen that happen with Tryst scrapers yet but I'm sure it will. There are tools I've heard of that modify images to make it much harder for AI to mess with them, maybe look into that?
Hello! Super quick answers to your first two points, within what I can say.
Search traffic varies wildly for different users and across different regions as Google continues to change their algorithms. There’s a few reasons not to discuss SEO publicly in more detail, but we’re very happy with our SEO performance.
We're working on improving how quickly we process photos! Our recent expansion of our support team by about 60% should be having even more impact on this soon. I'm glad you've noticed it improving already 🙂
Thanks for taking a moment to answer questions! I often see reports about people experiencing significant wait times for verification with their ID and/or rejections due to their material not meeting the stated verification requirements. I haven’t updated my photos on the site in a while, but I also seem to recall that Tryst requires all photos to be reviewed by the team before they go live on the site. Additionally, IIRC the site does not allow advertisers to watermark their images. However, in spite of these ID verification and photo approval processes, I have been a victim of impersonation where someone on the site was able to use my photos on their advertisement. I have also seen reports of others who have experienced the same impersonation issues. Could you speak to the review process for advertisers and advertisement material? What is that process like currently and what are some improvements you all will implement in the near future to reduce the wait time for verification while also ensuring advertiser legitimacy?
You recall correctly! All advertisers on Tryst go through ID verification, and every photo is manually reviewed by our moderation team before it goes live. Also yes, we now allow small, non-intrusive watermarks like your name or working alias. That’s a change from how things were a while ago, so it makes sense if you remember it differently.
That said, even with those steps in place, impersonation can still happen. We’ve seen cases where someone managed to upload photos that weren’t theirs, usually ones that had been posted elsewhere publicly. They were able to get through verification by gaming the system. It’s unacceptable, and we’re actively working on closing those gaps.
Here’s how the current process works:
- All advertisers must complete ID and selfie verification.
- Every image is manually reviewed and must follow our photo guidelines. We don’t allow AI-generated content, explicit acts, text overlays, or watermarks from third parties like photographers or agencies.
- You can include your own watermark, as long as it’s simple, small, and relates to your name or branding.
- We also add a small automatic Tryst watermark to the bottom corner of each image.
What we’re improving:
- We’re streamlining our internal systems to reduce verification and moderation wait times.
- We’re building better tools to detect stolen or reused images, including image-matching checks and internal flagging.
- We’re improving how we cross-check ID materials with uploaded photos to catch impersonators sooner.
- We’re also making it easier and quicker to report impersonation. When those reports come in, we prioritise them and take swift action.
These changes will take some time to become visible. As always, we need to make sure they are well-implemented and won't cause more harm than they solve, but that work is ongoing and more is being planned.
We know this isn’t just about policy, it’s about keeping people safe. If you find your photos being used without permission, please do report it right away, even with the current system and its flaws. Every report does help us make Tryst a safer and more trustworthy platform.
Since I'm answering this late, the AMA will be closed again soon! As always, you can email Chris (at tryst.link) if you have specific thoughts on how the reporting system can be improved, or DM me if you'd like me to clarify anything.
How long does the resubmission review last?
It depends on what the resubmission is for. With the way we've grown our support team recently, most resubmissions are reviewed within 1–2 business days. At the moment, there are almost no pending resubmissions, and most of what's left is complex cases that need some review.
If you're waiting on a resubmission right now, please DM u/Tryst_Support with the email you've signed up with so Macy can check it out!
Hi! First off, I really wanted to say thank you for the work you guys have put in the past couple years. I hope you take this ama to heart & realize how many thousands of sw around the world depend on your platform. As for my question - Currently there are only roughly 20 profiles when I filter to Milan, Italy and only around 30 under Madrid, Spain - both of which are very major European metros. Meanwhile in comparison, even a mid-sized US metropolitan area like Denver, Colorado lists 600+ profiles. Do you plan on putting in more effort to expand into the European market & what steps do you plan on taking to do so?
Bring it on, Europe!
We're definitely thinking about it! We know that sex workers in Europe will have different needs from sex workers in other parts of the world where Tryst has become more popular, so the first step is research.
We plan to speak to more sex workers in Europe to learn about your specific needs, then make sure that Tryst is actually going to be useful. We're also aware we have a few things we need to sort out before we can encourage new signups at a larger scale (like improving our signup experience!)
We'd love to hear from you, if you'd like to help us figure out what could make Tryst better in Europe! If you want to be part of our research, you can reach me at [email protected].
How long on average does it take for you to verify our profiles to allow them to go live on the site? X
At the moment, the average time it takes is 34 days, which is much too long. The good news is that this is a huge drop from two weeks ago, when it was 47 days! We've recently hired and trained some specialists to tackle this exact delay, and our projections suggest this wait time will continue to decrease. I hope we'll get that all the way down soon.
I have two passports and split my time between 2 countries, with different legality levels. I have worked in both countries but now am fully expanding my brand. I am looking at having two completely different websites and profiles so that I can tailor my advertising accordingly. Can I sign up for two different Tryst accounts – one with one passport, the other with the other passport? This would help so much with the separation between the two.
We allow each person to have multiple profiles for different categories, but we don't currently allow multiple profiles for different personas in the same category. Creating a second account does not require you to provide different ID.
There’s a good chance we will consider this in the future, especially as it relates to different geographical areas! The situation you're describing makes perfect sense. It isn't on the list of immediate things we're likely to look at soon, though.
Is there any possibility of introducing publishing standards? Seeing Hustler style content right next to your ad because of another advertiser is... A bit disturbing. Also, could you all do something about pricing being impression based rather than a monthly? Something is profoundly wrong when I'm only getting 100k impressions per month while someone advertising in NYC, LA, and Chicago could get 1M impressions per month, but we're both paying the same amount. Last one: the three cities feature is a detriment to many advertisers in cases of abuse - but you all don't have an option for those of us who might want to work on a FMTY basis. With other ad platforms - Eros, Backpage, etc. - you can just pop up ads wherever you want them. Tryst limiting to three... Makes that business model much harder.
Thanks so much for your thoughtful feedback.
We completely understand how frustrating it can be to come across content that doesn’t align with your brand or preferences.
Our advertising policy outlines what is and isn’t allowed on the platform, and while we encourage everyone to review it here, it’s also important to us that providers can advertise in ways that feel authentic to them as long as they remain within our guidelines. This means you’ll see a range of styles and approaches across the platform.
We want to be absolutely clear: we do not support or tolerate whorephobia. Tryst was built for the sex work community, and that includes respecting the many different ways people choose to present themselves.
We also hear your concerns around pricing and impressions.
Please note: our memberships are not based on impressions.
That said, our team is currently reviewing how we can better reflect market differences and create a more equitable system across regions. It’s a balancing act between keeping things simple and being fair, and we’re actively working on ways to improve that model.
Regarding multiple home bases and FMTY, these are things our team are thinking about! But these aren't our current priorities, so I don't have any concrete news for you there.
We truly value feedback like yours—it helps us make Tryst safer, more inclusive, and more effective for everyone in the community.
What countries are you guys not servicing currently?
Good question, and one I know there's a lot of curiosity and frustration around.
Right now, there are several countries we can’t service due to a mix of legal restrictions, international sanctions, and the limits of what our small team can safely support. Here's a starting list of places we currently do not service:
- Belarus
- Central African Republic
- Democratic Republic of Congo
- Iran
- Libya
- Mali
- North Korea
- Russia
- Syria
- Zimbabwe
An important note: this list isn’t exhaustive. There are other regions we may not be able to support, depending on the legal context or patterns of unsafe activity we’ve encountered. Basically, if it’s a place where sex work is heavily criminalised, or where we’d be putting providers or ourselves at legal risk, we have to be extra cautious.
That said, this isn’t a forever thing. We would love to one day be able to support more countries, and we know that means doing the work to better understand how. If you're part of (or know of) peer orgs, advocacy groups, or on-the-ground collectives working on decrim or digital safety for sex workers in currently unsupported regions, please reach out. Connecting with local expertise is how we make smart, safe, and meaningful decisions about expansion.
Does the online-only issue mean us in-person workers can’t have onlyfans/loyalfans/fansly links on our pages?
You can definitely have links to your online profiles on your in-person ad! We've added validation to links like OnlyFans links to make sure they're correctly formatted, which also allows us to keep track of them.
We want in-person sex workers who do online work to be able to advertise both on our platform, and that will not change unless we have absolutely no alternative.
Do you have any suggestions for providers who would like to contribute to the blog but don’t know where to start?
Absolutely! If you're keen and don't know where to start, our Write for Us page is a starting point if you haven't seen it yet.
Is there anything we could do to make this more approachable or barriers you're running into specifically? Our blog team are watching this AMA and would love to hear.
And no worries if you need a minute to mull it over, you are always welcome to reach out the blog team and ask us any clarifying questions. We want to publish you, so please do hit us up!
Why do some locations show up in the provider search, but not as an option when selecting a city under tours? I've been wondering if this is a technical glitch because places I used to be able to select for tours are no longer available and have no providers touring there (so assuming it has disappeared for them as well between last year and this year). Thank you for fielding these questions!
Currently, the locations we show in the member area (for your profile, home base and tours) are separate from the location list we use for search.
We did this early on to ensure a good experience for both clients and providers.
Clients expect to be able to search for any location, so that’s what we allow.
However, a good provider experience is one that has a controlled list of locations, which makes sure you’re listed on a page with enough results for decent SEO.
We have been looking at how we could unify these two systems. It isn't a small project though, so I can't give you a proper estimate on when that might happen!
Thank you Tryst for the wonderful platform that has been created for us. My only wish is that you will properly consider it in other locations such as India and South Africa. I know of so many independent sex workers who have requested Tryst in India, but all the requests to have Tryst in India have been rejected by Tryst. There are many business traveller clients that we know of who use Tryst abroad e.g. London & USA who would love to use it when they return back to India, so there is a huge demand. I do not understand the reason why it has been rejected, it can’t be due to legislation, as Tryst operates in the USA for example. Surely it can’t be due to human trafficking risks, as this can happen anywhere in the world, especially in Mexico for example (where Tryst also is allowed). Can you please reconsider this. Thanks!
Thank you for this, it's a huge question that deserved a careful answer.
The short version is: we don't have the capacity to reconsider this right now.
The long version, passed on from the leaders who make these decisions, is:
Honestly, we’d love to, but we also know this isn’t something that can be done quickly or carelessly.
The legislative and cultural landscapes around sex work vary significantly between countries, and navigating them responsibly is complex. In many regions, criminalisation (whether direct or partial) makes it incredibly difficult to ensure the safety and legal protection of sex workers, and by extension, any digital platform that supports them. Engaging with these realities requires deep, ongoing research, legal consultation, and collaboration with trusted local organisations that already have relationships within these communities.
Equally important is ensuring that sex workers can access and use the platform safely. That’s not just about tech and translation. It’s about privacy, trust, localised support, and a clear understanding of risk, which differs widely depending on the legal context.
But we can’t only focus on one side of the marketplace. Building a client base that respects and aligns with the values of the platform, and meets the cultural and behavioural expectations of the regions we operate in, is just as essential and equally nuanced.
All of this takes real time, resources, and care. As a bootstrapped team, we’re taking a careful, sustainable approach. That means working slowly and intentionally: listening, building peer partnerships on the ground, ensuring our support systems are relevant in each context, and evolving the platform in a way that meets local needs without creating new forms of harm or exploitation. We’re committed to growth, but it has to be thoughtful, and always in service of the communities we’re here to support.
Is it possible to only work with a Username & Password or is Google Authenticator mandatory?
You don't have to use Google Authenticator, but you do need to have some way of using two-step login.
Two-step login is incredibly important for protecting your account and, more importantly, your personal brand. You might have heard about or seen some of the emails from scammers impersonating us.
If you log in on a site that's pretending to be Tryst and give them your email and password, or if you use the same email and password on another site which is then hacked, people who want to use your account (and your photos and brand/persona) to scam potential clients will be able to log in as you. They won't be able to get past that second step unless you also give the verification code or backup code to them.
There are other options for two-step login. You can use another app (Maya uses Authy), a physical second step (like a Yubikey), or your mobile device (FaceID and similar). All of these options live on a physical device that most malicious actors won't have access to.
Side note: please try to only log into Tryst by typing tryst.link into your browser! It's always safer to avoid clicking links, and double-check the site address before putting any personal information in.
Hiiii, what’s the best way to get in contact with the team ?
Hi! You can contact our support team by using the link in the bottom right menu on our website. When you've clicked the menu, scroll down until you find 'Contact Tryst Support', and fill out the form.
For ease, you can find our support form here: https://app.tryst.link/support/new
We also have a Knowledge Base that answers a whole bunch of questions that are frequently asked over our support channels. The speediest way to get your questions answered is to check our Knowledge Base first. If the answer's not there, we'll be here to help!
You can find our knowledge base here: https://help.tryst.link/en-gb
Alex from SWOP behind bars Community Support Hotline kindly agreed to an interview here on Sex Worker Search blog.
As per the SWOP Behind Bars website =
The Community Support Hotline (CSL) is a centralized toll-free hotline that can be accessed by anyone in North America for assistance with safety planning, networking and accessing resources. We receive more than 200 calls a week seeking assistance with a wide variety of issues from crisis support around and assault or an arrest, to sex positive resources for medical and mental health resources to housing and transportation requests. All of our services and support are provided by other sex workers and survivors. You are NOT alone! Need help right now? Call the hotline and speak to a peer that understands!
1-877-776-2004
Can you please share what inspired the launch of the Community Support Hotline, and how its' goals align with SWOP Behind Bars’ mission to Create Community from the Inside Out?
The Community Support Hotline was born out of necessity—because sex workers kept telling us what they needed, and we believed them. During the height of the pandemic, we were getting flooded with messages from incarcerated sex workers and folks in crisis: people being evicted, outed, stalked, arrested, ghosted by outreach orgs, or stuck in exploitative situations with no one safe to call. Most mainstream hotlines either ignored sex workers, treated them like criminals, or tried to “rescue” them without consent.
So we created something different: a peer-led, harm-reduction-based hotline that listens without judgment and responds with real-world options. The Hotline is an extension of SWOP Behind Bars’ mission to “Create Community from the Inside Out” by centering those who are most often left out—especially sex workers who are incarcerated, in reentry, or navigating state systems.
What specific needs or crises faced by sex workers is the Hotline designed to address, and how do you tailor your responses differently than traditional hotlines?
We handle a wide range of issues: everything from someone needing help with a bad date or finding housing, to reporting violence from clients or law enforcement, to needing commissary funds, court support, or just someone to talk to who gets it. We’ve helped people get emergency contraception, leave abusive work situations, navigate anti-trafficking “rescue” raids, and even reconnect with lost family members.
What makes us different from traditional hotlines is that we don’t assume the caller’s goal is to exit sex work—we’re here to support people where they’re at. That means safety planning, resource referrals, and advocacy—without the saviorism. And we never call the cops.
How are your Hotline volunteers and staff trained to handle sensitive, high‑risk, or emergency situations, and what backgrounds or expertise do they bring?
Our Hotline team is made up of peer workers and allies with lived and professional experience in harm reduction, social work, crisis response, reentry support, and sex worker rights advocacy. Every volunteer goes through intensive training that covers trauma-informed care, consent culture, safety planning, anti-carceral frameworks, and how to support people navigating criminalization, domestic violence, or trafficking without defaulting to law enforcement.
We also roleplay difficult calls, have protocols for high-risk scenarios, and do a lot of debriefing and peer support behind the scenes. The work is emotional and nuanced—and we’re big believers in taking care of each other, too.
Can you share any success stories? Either specific if those involved consent to sharing, or in general terms what do Community Support Hotline's success stories look like?
Success doesn’t always look dramatic. Sometimes it’s just a text that says, “I made it home safe.” Or someone finally getting a bus ticket and a prepaid phone after being stuck in a bad situation. Or helping a person in prison get their birth certificate so they can apply for a commutation. Or even just a survivor saying, “You’re the first person who didn’t make me feel broken.”
When consent allows, we share anonymized wins with our supporters to show that mutual aid and peer-led support works. Every story reminds us why we do this.
I was reading your Prank Calls, and Trafficking Conspiracies blog post and as a moderator on the sexworkers subreddit, I can empathise since I'm often the one who has to intervene when non sex workers post something on the subreddit that's more like an X Files screenplay than reality. Do you have any good techniques for encouraging callers to believe in the lived experience of actual sex workers rather than whatever assumptions, misconceptions, hype, click bait or fake news they've been misled by?
Oh, the X-Files of it all. We’ve heard it all—from the caller who was sure their neighbor was running a trafficking ring because of “too many Uber Eats deliveries,” to folks convinced that every OnlyFans creator must be a victim in disguise.
Our approach is to meet people where they are without validating their assumptions. We often say, “That’s a serious claim. Let’s talk about what trafficking actually looks like, and what sex workers say would help them stay safe.” Redirecting people toward lived experience, data, and survivor voices—without immediately shutting them down—goes a long way. And sometimes, a little humor helps too.
What can people reading this do to help? For example what volunteer opportunities do you have available? What are the pre-requisites for call handlers?
We’re always looking for volunteers—especially peer support folks with lived experience in sex work, incarceration, or harm reduction work. We also welcome allies who want to help with admin, fundraising, or social media moderation.
For Hotline volunteers, we ask for a strong grounding in nonjudgmental care, reliability, and the ability to manage emotionally complex situations. Training is provided, and we’re especially committed to mentoring folks from marginalized communities into leadership roles.
Anyone interested in volunteering can visit The Volunteer page on the SWOP Behind Bars Website and fill out an interest form.
Thank you to MelRose Michaels for agreeing to this interview about GPTease, an AI-powered chatbot platform made by sex workers, for sex workers.
GPTease offers an unrestricted environment for generating NSFW (Not Safe For Work) content, including scripts, captions, and responses to client queries. If you need help drafting social media posts, writing content for your blog or composing a bio page for your website, GPTease is an invaluable tool to have at your disposal.
Unlike mainstream AI tools that often impose content limitations, GPTease is designed to provide a more open and flexible experience for users in the adult industry.
Question 1: Based on the latest news, various AI models like ChatGPT and Grok are starting to be more permissive about sex work related queries. What features does GPTease offer that help to set it apart from other AI models?
While it’s encouraging to see other platforms beginning to open the door to adult industry queries, GPTease was built with sex workers at the center—not as an afterthought. Having an explicit GPT tool at your disposal makes a world of difference. Unlike mainstream models that may be "permissive," GPTease is purpose-built for adult content creators.
Question 2: People have commented on the ability for GPTease to customize the tone of content it outputs to match the voice of a specific person. As someone who uses LLMs a lot, I have found this is where others like Chat GPT tend to be ineffective. This leads me to wonder how GPTease was trained. Can you go into detail on the dataset used to trained GPTease like where it came from, the size of it, do you keep retraining?
Our features go far beyond surface-level acceptance. We support spicy creators with tools that actually understand the language, tone, and business strategy behind successful content. Our NSFW GPT goes way beyond writing explicit scripts, fan messages, and femdom ideas. It crafts high-converting copy and can organize content ideas by platform - we’ve designed every aspect to meet the real needs of this industry.
Question 3: Your T&C's stress your respect for users of GPTease in terms of how you collect and handle user's data. I'd love to dig deeper into how you prioritize ethical considerations and privacy whilst operating a platform intended for sex workers. For example do queries get used as part of future training or what your policies are for inquiries into information about your users, their chats, etc?
While we can’t share specific training details (they’re proprietary and if we share the sauce we'll put ourselves out of business), what I can say is this: GPTease has my 13+ years as an independant adult creator, who's worked in nearly every vertical of online adult work, at it's center. That's why GPTease doesn’t just tolerate adult content—it actually elevates it. Every feature is informed by the real workflow, challenges, and creative genius of a sex worker who treats this like the business it is. We’re proud to be the only AI built by and for this community, with no compromises.
Respect is at the core of everything we do—and we don’t just say that because it sounds cute in a TOS. GPTease wasn't just built to be a sexy chat gpt. It was built specifically with adult creators in mind. As one myself, I know how vulnerable it can feel to share content, strategy, or persona-driven prompts with an AI.
We do not use your prompts for future model training. Your personalization & memories inside GPTease are compartmentalized to your account to provide you with better responses. If we were to change that to improve the product for everyone, our creators would have a way to opt-out. We feel strongly that it's our responsibility to protect our users as fiercely as we protect the integrity of the product. Ethics & consent aren't a line item for us—it’s the foundation.
Question 4: Some users have mentioned that they were only getting 20 prompts on the paid plans, but it looks like your tiers are now 500 for Pro and 3000 for Power. Based on discussions on reddit, it looks like some users are using GPTease to generate responses in real time while they are chatting with clients. The Pro and Power plans seem like ideal solutions to keep up with the large volume of queries generated by this kind of usage. Have you recently increased your prompts or are you looking at increasing what is offered on the Pro and Power plans? Any chance of an unlimited plan?
You caught us—we did recently increase prompt counts based on user feedback and growing demand. These new limits were built to better support high-volume usage, especially for creators using GPTease during live chats or DM management.We know adult creators aren’t just writing one tweet and calling it a day—you’re scripting, responding, teasing, promoting, and selling. So we made sure the tiers matched that reality.
As for an unlimited plan? Our adult creators aren't currently hitting prompt limits on paid plans, so the need for unlimited doesn't appear to be significant beyond the perception of being 'limitless' haha. Never say never of course, but we want to make sure anything we roll out continues to be sustainable and high-quality - because the last thing we’ll ever do is compromise performance to slap on an “unlimited” sticker.
Question 5: With the ongoing changes to age verification laws in the U.S., UK, and other parts of the world, how do you anticipate platforms like GPTease might need to respond? If laws begin to require users to verify real-world identity details to access adult and sex work related content, do you think GPTease will need to move toward age-gating with identity verification, or will you geoblock access in the UK or certain U.S. states? As someone who’s worked with the Free Speech Coalition and initiatives like DefendOnlinePrivacy.com, what’s your perspective on the best path forward for platforms navigating these regulatory pressures?
This is such an important question, and one that keeps coming up more and more as the regulatory landscape shifts—especially around age verification and online privacy.
At GPTease, we’ve always prioritized building tools that empower creators without compromising user privacy. But with the growing momentum behind legislation in the U.S., UK, and elsewhere requiring age verification—sometimes down to real-world ID submission—we’re fully aware that the conversation is changing.
Right now, GPTease doesn’t distribute media content for public consumption—it’s a creation tool, not a content platform. The way I currently view GPTease is more aligned with something like Google Docs. It’s a workspace for creators to generate written content—scripts, captions, posts, ideas—but it doesn’t host or share that content publicly.
Just like no one age-verifies before drafting a script in Google Docs or writing a story in a word processor, users don’t need to age verify to access GPTease’s tools in its current form. So as of now, age verification laws aimed at platforms distributing adult content don’t apply directly to us.
That said, we’re staying informed and adaptive. If the law ever expands to include AI tools or content creation platforms—especially if they’re seen as part of the adult content pipeline—we’ll respond accordingly. But for the moment, GPTease remains a private, creator-first tool focused on productivity and business growth, not content distribution.
Having worked closely with the Free Speech Coalition and initiatives like DefendOnlinePrivacy.com, I strongly believe that the best path forward is one that balances compliance with civil liberties. We need smart legislation that protects minors and respects adult autonomy and online expression. Age verification should be privacy-preserving by design, not surveillance disguised as safety.
The real danger is when regulation is used not to protect, but to censor speech, restrict access, or stigmatize sex work. That’s why I believe platforms like GPTease, and the broader creator ecosystem, must stay politically engaged, advocate for creator rights, and help shape the laws that affect us.
This mission has always been at the core of all my companies, not just GPTΞASΞ, but also SWR Data, and SexWorkCEO.
A big thank you to Adrie Rose for agreeing to speak with me about the upcoming Kickstarter funded anthology, I Hate My Job: Thots on Labor, Sex Work, and Capitalism.
Adrie has brought together a diverse group of current and former sex workers including =
Hate My Job is set to be published by Working Girls Press (WGP), a cooperative publisher founded in 2023 by Molly B. Simmons and Emily Marie Passos Duffy. With a mission to publish, promote, and support the writing and art of sex workers, WGP approaches publishing through collaborative and collectivist principles.
Previous titles published by Working Girls Press are available here.
The estimated book launch date for I Hate My Job: Thots on Labor, Sex Work, and Capitalism, is November 2025.
What inspired you to create this anthology? Was there a specific moment or experience that sparked the idea?
A lot of things, I think. This is, first and foremost, the culmination of years in, around, and on the periphery of the industry. I've had a lot of feelings, both positive and negative, about my time, my clients, and my interactions with non-sex workers based on their perception of me, and those feelings have evolved a lot during the last decade or so. It's probably more honest to say there wasn't a single moment or experience that was the catalyst -- just experiences in general.
The through-line for me, especially after I began reading Carol Leigh's work more, has always been that this is just a job. Some people really love their jobs, and some people, like me, are ambivalent at best. It's never felt fair, to me, that sex workers are never given permission to be ambivalent, or even negative, about their work without someone from the outside bearing down on them with demands that they justify their participation in the industry through empowerment or something inane. No other job, no other industry demands this -- not military service, not policing, not health insurance. It's only us. This book was born, if you will, out of a desire to give sex workers a safe place to say all the things we're not supposed to say.
With countries like New Zealand and Belgium leading the way, do you predict that more countries will decriminalise sex work?
I really wish that I could say yes. I think more countries will dabble with the Nordic Model, or iterations of it. But I really do believe we're in for a global wave of repression that hasn't been seen in several generations. I think there are a lot of very angry men, especially white men, who are looking to exact retribution on women, queer people, and people of colour and I think sex work(ers), as always, will be on the front lines of that cultural and legal fight.
At the risk of being accused of giving in to doomerism, I wouldn't say that it's entirely hopeless. I do believe that there are a lot of people, even in powerful positions, who want to create a better world. And I believe they're doing everything possible to make that hope a reality. But, that's an incredibly difficult fight in a world where populism is such an attractive ideology. I think we're just doing a very small, but necessary, part to make the fight a little easier.
I recently read Chokepoint Capitalism and also Technofeudalism and I'm finding the subject of big tech's role in modern capitalism fascinating. What do you see as the implications of big tech in terms of our ability to use online platforms for profit as sex worker's?
I mentioned this in a Q&A with our publisher, Working Girls Press, but I didn't include the impact of technology as a specific theme in the book because I didn't think I would be able to edit that writing in an appropriate way. I spent a lot of years in school fully immersed in how technology companies and financial institutions have an undue impact on sex workers and it's very difficult for me to approach that topic from a non-academic standpoint. I'll do my best with this question though.
I think tech is irrevocably intertwined with the future of sex work. With the loss of Twitter as a viable platform for advertising, we're seeing losses in earning potential that I, personally, haven't seen since Back page was taken offline. As more social media platforms become increasingly hostile to anything "other," I think the consequences will only grow. After the passage of SESTA/FOSTA, platforms like AirBnB started quietly targeting people suspected of "non-desirable" behaviour through the use of proprietary algorithms that scrape a user's device history. Technology and sex work cannot be separated from each other, and it's in every sex worker's best interest to learn as much as they can about how platforms operate, down to the line items of their Terms of Service and arbitration policies.
What was the biggest challenge in putting this anthology together? Any moments where you thought, “I hate this (anthology compiler and editor) job” while working on it?
We're still in the process of writing at the time of this interview, so I imagine the best/worst is yet to come. I have to imagine that the hardest part will be deciding what to cut. We have an incredible group of contributors and I do worry about the boundary between thoughtful edits, and changing their voice(s). I've been at the mercy of editors who were more interested in word counts or changing my writing to better fit their plan, so I would hate to make another person feel that way. Overall, I'm just so incredibly excited about putting this anthology together, and grateful to our contributors for their faith in me and WGP.
What do you hope readers take away from this collection? Is it more about catharsis, public education, social change, or something else?
A little bit of everything, I think? This is certainly cathartic, for me at least. I've spent a lot of time arguing with strangers on the internet, and less time trying to ignore them. This anthology is everything I've ever wanted to say, some of what I've already said, and things I haven't considered saying yet. There's certainly an element of education here, but that wasn't my primary goal. This book is meant to be a conversation between sex workers, for sex workers. We absolutely want everyone to grab a copy, but with the understanding that this is not a book for someone who is still trying to rationalise support or understanding for sex workers. This is not a 101-level course, so to speak. It's probably more akin to a 401- or 501-level. Along with education comes change, ideally, so that's definitely baked in. And of course, this book is meant to function as a safe place for everyone that's ever felt they didn't belong to the community, because they can't say they love what they do.
I already pledged for the E Book duo but if someone else wants to pre-order I Hate My Job, can they do so via the Kickstarter or is there some other way to pre-order or get notified when it's published?
One of the reasons I love WGP is that the Kickstarter is the pre-order process, which feels a little more equitable, because backers can get the book for a little less than the retail cost. Now that the Kickstarter is closed, there is a waiting list where people can sign up to get an email when the book officially launches.-
I had an interesting chat the other day with Image Angel, a digital image protection company, about their invisible watermarking technology designed to protect sex workers from unauthorised copying and sharing of our content.
What is Image Angel?
Image Angel is a tool that websites install to protect digital content. It works by deterring clients from sharing content without permission because they can be identified and held accountable if they do.
How is this technology helpful for sex workers?
Image Angel helps sex workers by adding an invisible marker to their content that identifies clients who share images without permission. This traceable marker acts as a strong deterrent against unauthorized sharing, as clients know they can be held accountable, helping protect the creator’s work and maintain control.
Can anyone install it?
No, Image Angel is designed for content-sharing platforms, websites, or companies to install. They pay for the service to be integrated into their systems. This allows them to protect creators' content, comply with online safety regulations, and enhance the safety of their platforms.
Why can Image Angel only be installed at the platform level?
Embedding an invisible fingerprint automatically when content is downloaded or accessed by the client happens server-side. This ensures consistent protection for all content without requiring individual users to manually apply or manage it.
Who can see the client’s information in the image?
To the human eye, it’s invisible. If there’s been a leak, Image Angel can extract the platform data and pass on that information to the platform to trace. If the creator wants to pursue the issue, the platform and Image Angel then work together to find the best outcome or course of action to hold the individual accountable for the image misuse.
What kind of resolutions can come from opening a case?
When a case is opened, the content creator remains in full control and can choose resolutions such as removing the leaked content, identifying the source of the unauthorized sharing, pursuing legal action, or holding the offender accountable through platform penalties. These kinds of outcomes empower creators and platforms to regain control, hold offenders accountable, and prevent further misuse.
How is Image Angel's watermarking technology superior to using reverse image search tools like Google Lens, PimEyes, or TinEye in terms of proactively protecting creators' content and addressing unauthorized use?
Image Angel’s watermarking technology gives creators stronger protection than image search tools by tackling problems before they happen, not after.
An invisible fingerprint is added when content is viewed, creating a clear link back to the source as soon as the image is opened or downloaded. This means unauthorized use can be prevented right from the start, unlike reverse image searches, which only find content once it’s already been misused.
If Image Angel detects unauthorized use of a watermarked image, will the owner receive an alert?
While Image Angel doesn’t offer real-time alerts for unauthorized use, we do have a dedicated support system to assist creators should the worst happen. If misuse happens, our team can help trace the fingerprint back to its source, providing crucial evidence for addressing the issue.
What is the process for having the content removed?
Our goal is to make sure those who fall victim to this feel supported, protected, and back in control of their content as quickly as possible. Image Angel offers a clear process to support creators in having the content removed, with a focus on evidence collection, support, and bespoke survivor-led resolution.
Would the presence of the watermark be sufficient proof of ownership for a takedown request, or would creators need to provide additional evidence such as raw files or identity documents?
While the watermark establishes guardianship of the image (showing it originated from a specific source), takedown requests often require stronger evidence to confirm actual ownership or rights over the content. Image Angel’s invisible watermark can add credibility to claims by providing traceable, tamper-proof data showing the image’s origin and timeline. This could help corroborate and support cases of repeat image-based violence rather than serve as standalone proof of image ownership.
Does Image Angel comply with the C2PA (Coalition for Content Provenance and Authenticity) standard?
It's better! C2PA data is generally stripped from an asset when it’s sent via a website like OnlyFans or WhatsApp, so even with this standard, images can be easily taken and repurposed. The principles of Image Angel's technology—embedding invisible watermarks to establish guardianship—align closely with the goals of the C2PA, which are to ensure transparency, provenance, and authenticity of digital content but cannot be removed unlike C2PA. Because Image Angel’s fingerprint is within the image, not attached to it, it also remains if the content is screenshotted, unlike C2PA data.
Could Image Angel’s watermarking technology be adapted to function as a proof-of-authenticity tool for verifying that content is genuine and not a deepfake?
By adding invisible watermarks that include details like who created the content, when it was made, and where it came from, Image Angel can create a unique digital "fingerprint" for each image or video. This fingerprint makes it easier for platforms, users, and authorities to check if the content is real or has been altered, helping to spot fakes and confirm authenticity. However, in cases involving sex work, including too much identifying information could risk the creator’s anonymity, which is critical for their safety and privacy. This is why we choose to embed the client’s data to act as a deterrent against sharing.
What current, emerging, and future digital privacy concerns (e.g., deepfakes, catfishing, deposit scams, scrapers, etc.) should sex workers be aware of, and how can Image Angel's technology help protect our content?
Technology is advancing rapidly, and while new challenges like content theft and deepfakes emerge, innovative solutions are keeping pace. There will always be bad actors, but tools like Image Angel are helping to protect creators and shift behaviors toward a safer, more respectful online world.
Image Angel’s invisible watermarking acts as a powerful deterrent, making clients think twice before sharing content without permission because they know it can be traced back to them. This accountability helps shift behaviors over time, encouraging a culture of respect and consent. Combined with stronger online safety laws that hold platforms and offenders responsible, these changes can create safer online spaces where sex workers have more control, confidence, and security over their work.
Additionally, what other steps would you recommend we take to safeguard our digital assets effectively?
Choose your platforms wisely! It’s important to share content on platforms that prioritize privacy, have tools to block content scraping, and act quickly to remove stolen or misused material. Look for platforms with strong user protections, clear policies on unauthorized sharing, and systems like user verification to reduce scams and impersonation. Don’t be afraid to move to another platform if your current one isn’t providing the safety or support you need. Using multiple platforms can also help diversify your income, reach new audiences, and reduce reliance on any single service. By choosing wisely and staying flexible, you can better protect your content and have more control over where and how it’s shared.
I recently had the opportunity to interview Cory Doctorow, (craphound.com), a renowned science fiction author, activist, and journalist.
Cory is a passionate advocate for digital rights, privacy, and freedom of expression. He fights against corporate overreach, surveillance capitalism, and monopolistic practices in technology, emphasizing the need for open, interoperable systems that empower users rather than exploit them. A strong supporter of copyright reform, Doctorow champions creators' rights while opposing draconian laws that stifle innovation and access to knowledge. He also highlights the intersections of technology with labour rights, social justice, and economic equity, calling for systemic change to create a fairer, more democratic digital future.
Cory's latest novels are THE BEZZLE (a follow-up to RED TEAM BLUES) and THE LOST CAUSE, a solarpunk science fiction novel of hope amidst the climate emergency.
The most recent nonfiction book by Doctorow is THE INTERNET CON: HOW TO SEIZE THE MEANS OF COMPUTATION, a Big Tech disassembly manual.
He is the author of the international young adult LITTLE BROTHER series. He is also the author of CHOKEPOINT CAPITALISM (with Rebecca Giblin), about creative labor markets and monopoly; HOW TO DESTROY SURVEILLANCE CAPITALISM, nonfiction about conspiracies and monopolies; and of RADICALIZED and WALKAWAY, science fiction for adults, a YA graphic novel called IN REAL LIFE; and other young adult novels like PIRATE CINEMA.
Upcoming books include Picks and Shovels: a sequel to "Red Team Blues," about the heroic era of the PC, Tor Books, February 2025 and Unauthorized Bread: a middle-grades graphic novel adapted from his novella about refugees, toasters and DRM, FirstSecond, 2025.
Doctorow maintains a daily blog at Pluralistic.net. I highly recommend following Pluralistic via RSS.
He works for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, is an MIT Media Lab Research Affiliate, is a Visiting Professor of Computer Science at Open University, a Visiting Professor of Practice at the University of North Carolina’s School of Library and Information Science and co-founded the UK Open Rights Group.
Born in Toronto, Canada, Doctorow now resides in Los Angeles. In 2020, he was inducted into the Canadian Science Fiction and Fantasy Hall of Fame.
In 2022, Cory earned the Sir Arthur Clarke Imagination in Service to Society Awardee for lifetime achievement.
In 2024, the Media Ecology Association awarded him the Neil Postman Award for Career Achievement in Public Intellectual Activity.
York University (Canada) made him an Honourary Doctor of Laws; and the Open University (UK) made him an Honourary Doctor of Computer Science.
I've been reading Cory's books and watching video clips of his presentations and interviews and am greatly impressed by his opposition to, and proposed strategies for dealing with, the likes of Facebook Google, Twitter et al in terms of their disregard for the rights of their users, prioritising monetization over functionality, evading accountability to laws and regulations, abusing our rights to privacy and data security and generally behaving like cartoon supervillains.
Sex workers, and other disfavoured minority groups, are all too familiar with mistreatment at the hands of big tech. Social media likes to ban or shadowban us with no warning or explanation and the platforms we use to advertise (escort directories) blatantly abuse our rights to privacy, data security, deletion requests and ownership of our intellectual property.
Cory is an absolute wealth of information on how we can fight for our rights online and a goldmine of knowledge that I hope we can apply at the point where his ideas intersect with some of the difficulties sex workers face using both platforms intended for us (eg escort directories), and platforms where we are almost, not quite, kind of, sometimes, barely tolerated eg Twitter, Google, Reddit, the various messenger apps like Whatsapp and pretty much any site or app we use for advertising our services, networking with other providers and seeking support and information.
Here is our conversation =
Cory: Hi Oz, how are you?
Oz: Good, thank you Cory. How are you?
Cory: I'm honestly not great, but happy to talk. I've had some recent health complications.
Oz: Sorry to hear that. Thank you so much for taking this time to talk to me. I really appreciate it. I'm a fan of your work and I think what you say about technology and digital rights is really interesting. So, I'd love to hear your thoughts on those topics in the context of sex work.
Cory: Sure. I'm not an expert on sex work. I'm happy to tell you what I know but I'm also humble enough to know when I'm not an expert and not qualified. To the extent that I'm qualified to speak about this from the internet and human rights angle, I'm happy to chat with you.
Oz: Yes please, from that angle it should be very interesting. First of all, my commiserations regarding the election result, I know you're not a fan of the orange terror there.
Cory: No. That's pretty terrible indeed. I'm just trying to post through it and wait for other people to have better ideas than I have right now for what to do next. I figure being stressed out about it doesn't hurt Donald Trump and it does hurt me, so I'm trying not to dwell on it.
Oz: That's a good philosophy, I think. Best not to stress. I think sex workers all over the world are following what's going on there with interest, though, because a lot of the platforms that we use are based in America, operated by Americans. We're worried about things like this Project 2025, and whether that might progress now that the Republicans are in. What do you think about that? Is there much we can do to mitigate the effects of something like Project 2025 if it happens?
Cory: You know, the characteristic of the first Trump regime was a lack of administrative competence. There are a lot of people who are saying Trump is going to address the main stumbling block to administrative success that he had in the first term by packing his agencies with personal loyalists who are really firmly committed to his cult of personality and not making concessions to the party grandees by putting in older line conservatives that might not jump when he says frog. But I don't know that those people are actually administratively competent, right? They, themselves are also, chiefly weird and not necessarily good at getting stuff done.
Rick Perlstein who is a very, very, very good historian of right-wing movements has written I think the best take on Project 2025 which is that the most interesting thing about it is not how extreme their proposals are but how irreconcilable they are. So, in every key area from migration to abortion to labour rights to trade policy, there are multiple conflicting proposals for how to undertake them.
Oz: A lot of Project 2025's proposals just don't make sense from what I've seen.
Cory: It's not that it doesn't make sense, it's that what you see is that within the coalition that has given us Trump, there are irreconcilable differences and, you know, maybe relevant to what we do about Trump. Every change that we see in society almost without exception is the result of a new coalition.
You know if there's a bunch of people who want some stuff and they try really hard to get it, maybe they just have the wrong tactics and eventually, they'll hit on a better tactic and figure out how to make this stuff happen. But usually what you're seeing if someone's trying to make something happen and failing is that they don't have enough clout to accomplish their goals and so when things change it's because a coalition is formed. You fuse together two or more groups who inevitably don't agree on everything and so the coalition is how things get done.
After the Thatcher years you had new Labour which is a coalition of business interests and trade unions. With the trade unions taking the role of junior partner. That coalition was very powerful. We see lots of years of Blair with a strong parliamentary majority able to enact policies that punish the junior partners, the working people, to the benefit of mostly the finance sector people who joined the Blair coalition, and eventually that crumbles. Eventually, the Labour coalition crumbles and Labour ends up in the dark again for 14 years because that line of power is also a line of weakness or a line of brittleness.
There's a vulnerability as well as the strength. When we look to Project 2025, if we're taking a critical eye to it and saying, ‘What can we do to avert the worst outcomes?, What we can treat Project 2025 as is a roadmap to the fractures within the coalition.’
If these predatory, irreconcilable proposals actually aided in to Project 2025, what we can say about that with some degree of certainty is that the people who disagree about this are each of them sufficiently important and powerful enough in the movement that no one can dominate the other.
Which means that what you have is unstoppable forces and immovable objects in conflict, and that's an area where things could really shatter, right? So if we can figure out how to heighten the contradictions around those areas of fracture that they've so helpfully diagrammed for us, that's a good tactical place to start, to start pulling that coalition apart.
Oz: The part of Project 2025 that I worry about is that they're going to criminalize pornography. That consenting adults selling images and video online could become illegal, but as you say, that could be a fracture line in that people that are profiting from porn are not going to want it to be illegal.
Cory: Oh, not just that, right? Remember that a huge part of this coalition are libertarians of various types. Some of them are libertarians because they want to live in polycules and hire sex workers and consume all the pornography they want, and some of them are libertarians because they don't want to hire black people. Most of them are libertarians because they don't want to pay any taxes.
All of those groups, broadly speaking, are going to be really upset about porn bans, both on ideological and sort of personal grounds.
They represent a really significant bloc, and moreover, they represent a really significant fraction of the financial backing to the movement. And so, that fracture line is going to be a really important one.
Oz: Definitely. Well, a lot of people watch porn for sure, so it's something that affects everyone.
Cory: Yeah, you know, you can see this in the inverse, right? So if you recall, second-wave feminists who were anti-pornography, like Andrea Dworkin, found themselves in coalition with evangelicals like Jerry Falwell, even though they disagreed on other things.
You could imagine a coalition of libertarians who absolutely oppose rights for sex workers of any description, still forming a coalition with sex workers to defend the right to have pornography and do sex work. So that would be a very weird coalition. It's going to be really uncomfortable. You're going to be in the room with people who are marching side by side along with them or signing letters with them, with people who you really dislike and who have no interest in your well-being, but who might be tactically useful.
Deciding whether or not you want to make that compromise or form that coalition is going to be a really hard call. There's no right answer. And as far as I know, there's no heuristic to actually say, ‘Okay, well, this is the compromise that you should make’ and these are the compromises that are beyond the pale.
Oz: Yes, that's very interesting and I guess now we'll see how it plays out. Now when I was researching that blog post that I sent you about the privacy policies of the sex worker directories, I got a lot of mixed messages about how those platforms handle our identities and why. Some of them say it's because of the GDPR or the FTC or the requirements of their payment platform or Visa or MasterCard. But then they're claiming to be in Cyprus or Malta to avoid these things or they end up charging using Bitcoin anyway. So, it's all a bit of a mess, but I was wondering what do you think about what needs to change before they'll actually show any respect for our privacy and change the way they do things?
Cory: Well, I think that what you're seeing is different kinds of regulatory arbitrage. So, firms that pretend to be Maltese are not pretending to be Maltese to avoid the GDPR or the FTC, they're pretending to be Maltese to avoid tax and also to avoid disclosure of beneficial ownership, right?
When you see these problems within the EU, they're actually, I think downstream of intrinsic contradictions within Federalism. So, if you have a bunch of independent or quasi-independent states and you say, okay, we're all going to form a single bloc, there's always going to be some tension there that's completely legitimate.
You know I'm Canadian and it wasn't until after World War II that Newfoundland, which is population-wise, a very small territory, joined the Canadian Confederation. People from Newfoundland were legitimately concerned that everyone else in the country might gang up on them and say, okay, well, we have these new policies for our eastern coastal waters that are quite broadly beneficial to the whole country, but fuck over everyone in Newfoundland.
So whenever you have Federalism, you have these humanitarian rights for otherwise small things during federations. The problem is that that creates opportunities for small states to sell out the bloc.
So in Europe, you have Ireland, Malta, Cyprus, to a lesser extent, the Netherlands, and Liechtenstein, selling out the EU on tax and to a lesser extent, but still in a related matter, selling out the EU on regulation and enforcement.
Broadly, if you're a tax haven, you are relying on companies that, by definition, can change their flag of convenience, because that's how they got to your country. So the way that they decided to pretend to be Irish is they figured out how to do the paperwork.
If they can do the paperwork to pretend to be Irish this week, they could do the paperwork to pretend to be Luxembourgian next week. So you have to have something besides low taxes to keep them there.
What that ends up being is things like, oh, we just don't enforce the GDPR, which is Irelands big thing, their "data commissioner".
So, in terms of these contradictions you're seeing, you're seeing the intersection of a whole ton of different problems. One is this problem of European Federalism, where you have these different territories with different privacy regimes and different degrees of enforcement, and they're doing this tax haven shit that is luring companies there, even though they're not really there.
So obviously, Luxembourg is where Mindgeek mostly pretends it's based, even though they're a Canadian company and everyone knows it, right? I mean, that's like one source of the problem. And then within European Federalism, you have this other problem of enforcement, where it all starts in Ireland and the Irish Data Commissioner sucks.
Then you have a lack of antitrust enforcement, and that all of our payment processes have these incredible arbitrary and ever-changing lines. And so counsel for these firms, as well as their business strategists, just say, okay, well, we don't want to colour up to the edge of the line, because if the line moves even a bit and we find ourselves on the wrong side of the line, we lose everything.
So, we are going to colour really well inside the line. So, now you're trying to reconcile GDPR stuff with the tax haven stuff, with the monopoly payment processor stuff, and then there's the foundational thing that they just don't give a shit about your privacy, right? They don't give a shit about anyone's privacy broadly, and they really don't give a shit about the privacy of disfavoured minorities like sex workers.
So, in terms of what has to change before any of that can move, well, one way to think about this is that any change that we make to any part of the puzzle will result in some material improvements to the policy that flow out of it.
So the FTC has brought a case against Visa for domination of payment processing and monopolisation of payment processing. If that results in more competition in the payment processing world, broadly those companies will be less beholden to Visa and less conservative about pissing Visa off. So that's one thing that might help.
The EU, with the Digital Market Act, has said, okay, well, we're going to move frontline GDPR enforcement to the federal court and out of the national courts.
And so perhaps sex workers will have the ability to use this multi-use flag of convenience against sex worker platforms and say, you know, the European Court of Justice is going to order you to knock this shit off.
Now, again, this was not going to be an easy win because there are lots of good fundamental justice reasons not to want the federalization of European policy enforcement. But like your federalization of European public policy enforcement is how we got Greek Austerity that collapsed the Greek economy and the rise of fascist groups, right, like national sovereignty isn't always bad you know and so there's going to be a lot of countries that are going to be legitimately pissed off for really good reasons that you and I will probably support about the federalizing of European policy enforcement.
But you know, I don't want to say it swings around abouts because that's cheap but I want to say that like there are just as with coalitions there are tactical levers that we can pull on and none of those tactical levers operate just the one issue that we're trying to move.
They change the orientation of many issues that we want to move on and that impacts our ability to form and maintain coalitions so there'll be coalition partners who will be with you right up to the moment you say ‘and by the way we support European federalism and federal enforcement of European policy’ at which point it will become your bitter enemies and you're going to have to figure out right which side of those fights you're going to be on and which kind of coalition is going to get the most done and there there is a point where if you just prioritize coalition happiness above all other things and you say okay well today I'm going to side with these guys who I hate on 99 things but like on this hundredth thing and you are going to I'm going to be in partnership with these other guys who I hate on almost everything but like on this completely different thing, eventually you kind of look yourself in the mirror you go like it kind of seems like I don't stand for anything but I seem to be like marching alongside Maoists and like neo-Nazis, depending on whether it's a Tuesday or a Wednesday.
Oz: We have to draw the line somewhere.
So I'll give you an example from my own career.
You know, in most democracies, you have these expert agencies, right? Like the FTC or, you know, the European Commission or the various ministries within the UK. When they propose a regulation, they have some kind of notice and comment. So they say like, “Hey, we're thinking about banning lead in petrol.
What do you guys think?” Everyone submits comments, and then those comments are published, and then everyone submits reply comments, and then they propose a rule, and everyone submits comments, and everyone submits reply comments, and then the rule is ratified or modified or struck down.
That's broadly speaking how administrative agencies work everywhere.
There was a proposal to revamp the portal by which administrative agencies received comments, right, so all administrative agencies irrespective of what policy they were making.
The proposal was that they would develop a system to identify and discard, quote, substantively duplicative comments.
So comments that seem to be the same, so like spam. The problem with that is that once you say that an agency has leeway to decide whether a comment is duplicative, then what we're saying is that if 10 million people all say, “fuck no, this is a terrible idea”, the agency can say, “well, you're pretty duplicative, we're just going to count that as one now”
Everyone was likely very worried about this, so we created a sign-on letter for different kinds of things.
Oz: That's kind of the opposite of democratic.
Cory: Indeed. I mean, there is such a thing as spam. But it's badly conceived. So we put together a coalition letter to oppose this, and people poured in There were pro-abortion activists, anti-abortion activists, pro-gun activists, anti-gun activists, you know, everybody on every side just understood that this was the wrong discretion to put in the hands of the administration, that they should have to recognize and attend to every comment, or if they were going to discard comments. It would have to be on the basis of something more than this kind of automated opaque system. We got to this point where the guy I was working on this with called me up and said, ‘We don't want to accept comments like a sign-on from the KKK, right?’, and I was like, ‘No, we really don't’, right?
But this is how it might be. Somewhere along the line, you're going to have to draw that line about who you agree with and who you don't. You know, everyone, I think, around the world who follows American politics has heard of that Koch brothers, which is now just the one Koch brother, because the other one died. And the Koch brothers are terrible monsters. They're also prison abolitionists. They want shorter sentences.
They want more emphasis on rehabilitation. They are a libertarian in the best sense of the word partly because they understand that prisons are very expensive and they don't want that public expense, but also I think, because there is some genuine feeling that imprisoning people is an insult to their liberty.
The question is, ‘How do you feel about joining up with the Koch brothers to demand a better justice system?’ when they're also on the wrong side of every other issue? So, this is going to be like, this is the challenge that sex workers and other people from disfavoured minorities face.
Another way of saying a group that's not big enough to make the change that they want is disfavoured minorities. If you're a disfavoured minority, getting the change that you want is going to require forming coalitions.
Those coalitions, if you're very lucky, will just consist of, you know, lovely chaps who don't see your issue as their issue, but probably you all agree.
So I think of the environmental movement. You care about owls, I care about the ozone layer, foundationally, we don't really care about the same thing, but we're both environmentalists, so we can form a coalition.
But sometimes it's going to be like, you care about owls, and I'm a raving, swivel-eyed eco-fascist who thinks that the climate crisis is going to bring millions of migrants into the country, and I want to keep our borders strong. So we're both environmentalists. And do we end up in coalition together? It's not a question with one answer.
Oz: No, it's really not. I'm getting the impression from your answers that a lot of the troubles that we're facing are due to borders and conflicting interests of different nations. I was thinking of a science fiction scenario, I read a lot of Ian M Banks, if we were to ever have The Culture where we really were one civilization, one culture, that would kind of eliminate the borders and countries kind of problem in making decisions.
Cory: I don't know that that's true, because then you just have the problem of regions, right? You know, I loved Ian's work, and I knew him slightly, and thought the world of him. But, you know, I think that, like, if you look at the United States, which started off as 13 independent colonies unified and then absorbed several other independent territories over the ensuing century, the elimination of borders within the United States did not create a more robust democracy, it created a series of regionalisms that each of them represents a fracture line that can be exploited by bad actors.
When I lived in London, I lived in Hackney, which was the largest borough in the UK, it's larger than most cities in the UK, and I was having a classic local government problem where there was a legal hotel going into the building next to mine and they were doing all their renovation works, they were legally removing their asbestos without any remediation and they were doing it from midnight till 6 in the morning by jackhammering the wall of my bedroom every night. This is just a classic local government issue, right?
The noise abatement team was useless, they only had two people, they took eight hours to respond to a call and if there was no noise when they arrived, then they didn't do anything. So we never got any action out of them. So I went to see my counsellor, so I attended his surgery multiple times, he never showed up, I sent him emails, I sent him calls, never heard back from him, and eventually I called him out on Twitter.
And I was down at my local coffee shop and someone recognized me and said, ‘Oh I saw your tweet about your counsellor, you need to understand that because this is an absolutely safe Labour stronghold, that whoever wins the selection, the in-party selection, through Labour just has the seat, right?’
The election doesn't matter. Once you're selected you win because Labour always takes the counsel. I was at the selection meeting where your counsellor was selected, there were 12 of us there, he was elected by seven people. So, the reason your counsellor is not answering your phone calls or turning up for your surgery is because he doesn't give a shit and he doesn't have to give a shit.
Having a system where there's no competition, where there's no ability to move from one territory to another and seek a better system, and so on, it doesn't necessarily make for a system of more responsive better governance. It can actually create a system of extremely stagnant one-party rule where you don't see much responsiveness and you know, a lot of the, I think if you look at Liz Truss-Toryism, a lot of that is driven by the fact that the electoral map in the UK has been carved up in a way that makes many of the seats uncontested.
So when a seat is not contested, the actual contestation for the seat is in-party and what you get are the civilized loons, who are the only people who are really into how their party is governed, who turn up at the selection meeting and say, ‘I want the maniac who believes in a greater place’ in theory. Because that in-party selection process is so weakly democratic, it doesn't have the safeguards of a general election. It's like, you can take people out for lunch and offer the money to change.
Like, it's not election fraud to bribe someone on in-party selection stuff. All of the stuff that is illegal in a general election is permissible in an in-party selection. So you have these in-party selections that end up with these very weak candidates.
You know, the US election last night had the lowest turnout ever, right? The lowest vote for federal candidates ever. The federal top of the ticket. People just didn't vote for anyone for president yesterday.
Even the people who voted for president, voted in yesterday's election, in record numbers did not vote for the president because they just didn't like the candidates. The candidates are selected by party grandees who are completely disconnected from the will of the people. So without any kind of credible threat of loss of personal power, right, these party grandees can be insulated from the consequences of making poor decisions in the same way that the councillors or the other officials that they install into power are then subsequently insulated from any consequences for failing to serve their constituencies and you get bad governance downstream of that.
Oz: It's a pretty strange system where if you're not in a swing state a lot of people feel that their vote's not going to count and they might as well not bother voting so you do get these very low turnouts.
Cory: But even against that, we still have record low numbers because that's not new. We still have record low numbers of people saying I don't want either of these people for president.
So even people who turned up and voted, even in the swing state, in record numbers they left the top of the ticket blank. This is the party grandees going like we will feed the public a rasher of shit and they will eat it and the public saying ‘no thank you’.
Oz: Yes, as they should. What if we abolished the career politicians altogether and instead drafted in random members of the public to serve short-terms of compulsory political service, just reward them if they do a good job, punish them if they don't, and then kick them out at the end of their one year? Perhaps we could get sex work decriminalized that way.
Cory: So certainly sortition, which is more or less what you're describing there, has been a very effective way at breaking through issues where there's broad public support but the political consequences of siding with one issue over another are so intense that you get political gridlock.
The most famous example is abortion rights in Ireland, where broadly the Irish public supported the rights of women to have abortions but the political situation in Ireland with such that a party that supported it would get completely pasted in any kind of upcoming election.
Sortition created that basis for legalization without the political consequences. But sortition is not as punitive as you just described. Sortition does not need to include that we punish them if they make bad decisions. The advantage of sortition is that you've got sort of neutral experts who advise people, and then if they turn out not to be very good, they're balanced out by other people in the sortition jury. And sortition, I don't think anyone, even the biggest fans of sortition say that sortition should be exclusive of elected politicians as well.
Sortition is a badly needed tool in the governance toolbox, but it's not the only tool we should have. There's a place for elected legislatures, there's a place for expert drafting, there's even a place for continuity. So one of the things is that if you don't have continuity within political elected leadership, all your continuity comes from your bureaucracy, from the permanent bureaucracy. I think that civil servants can be very good and career civil servants can have this kind of longitudinal view of how things work. But, civil servants do not have the democratic legitimacy of elected leaders. You need at least some kind of long-term governance among at least some of those leaders to understand how things work, and why things are there.
There's the Fence Principle, where it's like if you find a fence, you shouldn't remove it until you find out why it's there. Because you remove it and it's like, oh shit, this fence is here because like twice a year the bulls come through here, and the fence stops the bulls from running through the schoolyard. It's not obvious when you see the fence, you think, ‘Oh, this is a stupid fence, I'm tearing it down.’ So, you know, you do want continuity because there are policies that are in place that are facially weird, but actually, have some long-term purpose.
An example of that would be that after the Great Depression, Western democracies around the world instituted separation between retail banks and investment banks. Your high street bank was not an investment bank, they didn't gamble with depositors’ cash. In the GoGo- Blair- Clinton era, we removed those restrictions, and then we had the great financial crisis. That was directly because you had a retail banks that erased the wall between themselves and the investment banks.
Well Ruth Bader Ginsburg said this when they struck down the Voting Rights Act, she said, ‘if we observe that we are not getting wet because we go outside with our umbrellas, it doesn't follow that we should discard our umbrellas because we don't have a problem getting wet anymore.’
The policies that work are the ones that are going to be the hardest ones to understand the reason for them because the problem has been so far in our rear-view mirror that we don't even know it's a problem anymore.
Oz: The political side of things is clearly a bit of a tangled web, the online side of things, the “enshittification” as you put it in your book, The Internet Con, which I really liked. I did say in the email I sent you that if I could wave a magic wand, I'd decriminalize sex work and give everyone their own personal website, their own blog page, and a payment portal so that people can just pay us directly. And then clients could use a privacy-oriented search engine like sex worker search or DuckDuckGo so that people can find us that way, pay us directly our deposits and for our content, and stay up to date with our blogs via RSS instead of scrolling social media. Basically, I'd like to cut out the directories and the big social media companies because that's where all the enshittification happens in sex work in my opinion. But how can we get there?
Cory: I think that there are a couple of different things to note about that lovely dream. The first one is that technically none of it is particularly challenging except maybe the payments piece. I'm sceptical of cryptocurrency for payments and decentralized payments more broadly. But I think that all of that stuff is stuff that exists, some of it like RSS is stuff that has existed since I was a young man and I'm decidedly not a young man anymore.
There's not a real technical impediment. I think that people who use those technologies in their ascendancy and people who can make them work for themselves today greatly prefer them to the platforms.
The problem isn't, broadly speaking, that people don't like it, and people just like the wrong things.
If we can say that these things are technically possible and broadly people like them and would prefer them, then you have to ask why aren't they using them.
Now, the right-wing economists will tell you that what we're seeing is something that they call a ‘revealed preference’. So in other words, if you sign away your privacy, every time you use a service, you must not value your privacy very much. No matter what you say, your actions speak louder than your words. I think this is nonsense.
That's like saying poor people like living in flats with cockroaches because if they didn't, they wouldn't, you know, like you gotta have a roof over your head, okay? I don't know, you know, people sleeping rough do not have a revealed preference for getting frostbite, right?
You have to factor in power relationships to understand what's going on. So really what's happening with these big platforms is that on the one hand, they did solve a problem, right?
It was hard to establish yourself online when Web 2.0 came along. So Web 2.0 solved a bunch of legitimate technical problems that people faced when they were trying to, you know, establish an online presence. They also created barriers to switching that are now what has cemented their dominance.
The normal life cycle of platforms up until the kind of monopolization of the internet was a bit like a leaky bucket. So people came in, but people also left. They churned out. The way that they churned out was that they had the ability to use third-party tools that made it easy for them to migrate accounts from one place to another and the best example of this was that Facebook lured away MySpace users by offering them a bot that you could feed your login and password to. Then would go to MySpace several times a day, grab all your waiting messages and put them in your Facebook inbox, and then you could reply to them and it would post them back out to your MySpace friends. So you didn't have to choose. Between the people you were already connected to on MySpace and the superior service on Facebook as Facebook was, in many ways superior to MySpace, including the fact that they had a really robust privacy policy where they promised not to spy on you, which is a thing I think a lot of us forget about Facebook's origins.
What Facebook did was they took advantage of a policy environment where it was permissible for a new market entrance, a new firm, to create these interoperable layers, what I call adversarial interoperability, right? When you modify a service without the permission of its owners or operators.
They took advantage of that and then they took great measures to end that policy. So you can't do that to Facebook again. So I think that Facebook will tell you that the reason people stay on Facebook, even though they don't like it, is because they have a revealed preference for Facebook.
Oz: No. It’s just difficult to leave.
Cory: Right, and I think that when you look at what Facebook does whenever someone makes it easier to leave, right, the litigation threats, the technical countermeasures, sabre rattling, that what you find is that Facebook has a strongly revealed preference for not making it easy for people to leave.
So Facebook does not act as though people just prefer Facebook. Facebook acts as though people would leave Facebook at the drop of a hat if they could. So I think that we can actually use these revealed preferences here a little. And we can say, actually, when we look at Facebook's actions, these are not the actions of a company that thinks that it has a bunch of secretly satisfied customers. These are the actions of a company that thinks that their customers are champing at the bit to leave.
So one thing that we can do is take Facebook at their word here, at least at their revealed word, and we can make it easier to leave Facebook in the other big platforms. That's something that we see in the Digital Markets Act where there are these interoperability mandates that require the largest gatekeeper platforms to have what are called APIs, which are just like programmable interfaces, where instead of having bots that go and write stuff, you can just say, “hi, I'm Oz's registered agent for this new service. Please give me everything waiting for him on Facebook and put it in his inbox over here. I hear all the things that he's sending back to the Facebook users who haven't left. Please put them in there in boxes, right?” This is something that's in the DMA.
The devil is in the details about how it gets implemented. The digital markets unit in the UK has just received authority to do similar stuff in the UK. And indeed, if a big bloc like the EU does this, it's probably going to come to the rest of the world anyway. So that's pretty exciting. It's a slow-moving process. There are lots of ways that it can go wrong, but it's pretty cool.
The other thing that we can do here is we can re-establish the rights of individuals and the people who serve them to not have to wait for official channels like this and simply reverse engineer, scrape, modify, and do that adversarial interoperability. There's not as much of that coming into law, but it makes for a very good adjunct to these mandates.
One of the problems with a mandate like this, as you say to Facebook, you've got to create an API that allows people to compete with you. Then Facebook says, ‘Okay, we'll comply. Here's our API, and it's just shit, and it won't work.’ So then you have a long argument about whether it works or not. You can be tied up for years.
Facebook can then like, even if you come up with something that does work, you would want Facebook to be able to shut down that gateway if they thought that it had a defect and someone was exploiting it to steal people's private information.
So all of a sudden, the successful competitors start showing up and saying, Facebook is turning off the gateway six times a day, and our users are just going back to Facebook because they're fed up with us. They need a reliable service. And Facebook says, ‘Oh, we're sorry, those were legitimate mistakes, you know, we do not want to expose our users, we have 4 billion users, we don't expose them to risk.’ So now you have these very complicated evidentiary questions that you have to resolve, you know, whenever this happens. It's very easy for Facebook to sabotage a rule like this.
Oz: It would be very difficult to prove that they're breaking the rules.
Cory: But what if we have this rule and we complement it with another rule that says, broadly, people are allowed to reverse engineer Facebook and wage guerrilla warfare with it? They're allowed to scrape it, they're allowed to break the DRM on the apps, they're allowed to do all kinds of things.
Now, Facebook can probably, like, tap engineers to, like, fight them and figure out what they're doing and block it, but that's a lot of unquantifiable risk for Facebook. And it can create, like, really big problems for them and make their shareholders really angry. If Facebook shows up at the start of the next quarter and says we did have this big feature we're going to roll out, but instead, we spent the last three months just fighting with people who are scraping us because the law no longer allows us to shut those people down.
All we can do is throw engineering at it. Facebook is going to be in trouble. We then create a kind of carrot and stick for Facebook where either they play nice and offer an API that is fit for purpose, or they task a completely unquantifiable amount of resources to fight reverse engineering.
One of the ways that we can figure out whether the API is good is whether or not people prefer to use the API or that they're just scraping and doing reverse engineering which is always going to be harder than using an API that's fit for purpose. So it gives regulators a kind of diagnostic tool.
We can do both, and I think we should. There's not much of this kind of adversarial interoperability in law. Where we are seeing it come up a little bit now is in right-to-repair rules where we are seeing prohibitions by state-level governments in the United States on invoking IP law to block legitimate kinds of reverse engineering.
So that's in the Oregon laws and the New York law. It's basically saying you're just like, if someone is reverse engineering for the purpose of fixing the thing, you just can't use IP law against them.
You’re just carving out that kind of litigation threat. So now you've got these companies that either can fight this guerrilla warfare with the independent repair sector or they can play nice and give everyone the diagnostic tools they need so that anyone can fix anything and the kind of the cheapest and most commercially advantageous route for them broadly is to play nice and not cheap.
We're setting up an environment where not cheating at the rational thing to do. If you're irrational and they cheat anyway, we still have an escape valve. We still have things that we can use to go around the firms and their intransigence while we wait for the justice system to make a determination that they are cheating, which might take many years.
So I think that's like, I know it's a very wonky answer, right? But that is the policy stuff that we need to try and make it easier to realize the promise of a world in which people who don't like platforms don't feel that they can't leave them.
Oz: If that kind of policy goes through, that's a big deal for everyone, I think. And for sex workers specifically, platforms like Twitter that make it difficult for us to leave are kind of a big problem. Like recently, Elon cancelled their function to block people so that somebody that you've blocked, can still read your tweets. As a sex worker, if you block somebody, often it means that that person is dangerous, they're stalkers, so that's been a bit of a tipping point. People have actually started to leave Twitter and go to things like Bluesky or Mastodon, things like that, which will be great if that happens. If more people start leaving, then maybe they'll stop treating us the way they do, like a second-class user of their platform.
Cory: Yes, indeed. You know, people who fear your departure, broadly speaking, treat you better.
Oz: That would be really nice to see. Also, regarding intellectual property, I’m all for your proposals about free sharing of digital media and the copyright only existing to stop people from selling somebody else's content that they own, like for your own profit. But from a sex worker perspective, I think a lot of us value the right to have our images removed from the internet, if they're stolen or they're misused or we're retiring or have a stalker. People want to be able to take their pictures down, which I've recently written a guide for people on how to send takedown requests. What are your thoughts on intellectual property rights specific to sex workers in those kind of scenarios?
Cory: Well, I think that these are totally understandable priorities and they're not unreasonable. I use takedowns when my books are sold on Amazon's Audible platform. People record pirate editions and sell them there, which I get quite affronted by and have them taken down. That's fine. I recognize that the takedown process is somewhat tedious. It can be complicated and daunting. What I would urge sex workers to understand as they navigate that process is that the barriers to removal are themselves of enormous benefit to sex workers.
Anything that we do to make it easier to remove things without adequate proof that the person requesting removal is entitled to do so without some kind of review and so on makes it possible for people to just remove sex workers' voluntary and consensual work from the internet, makes it possible for harassers to remove their stuff as a way of attacking them economically, makes it possible for bad clients to have factual and true information about their abuses of other sex workers removed.
I'm not saying that we should never be able to take an intermediary and require them to honour a takedown request, but I am saying that it's very easy as someone who's only interaction with intermediaries, and by an intermediary, I just think you're not hosting your own server in your own data centre with your own website that you wrote yourself on an ISP that you own. You're relying on an intermediary somewhere to connect you with the rest of the world. Anyone who thinks that the intermediary should be less careful because, quote unquote, obviously this is bad, it was someone who has not thought through how their own enemies would have used that facility. I think that sex workers have a lot more to fear from spurious takedowns than they do from bureaucratic requirements around takedown.
That again is like not to say that all bureaucratic requirements are good, they could be nonsensical and so on, but the idea that we should have precautions, that we should have guardrails around takedown notices is in fact hugely beneficial to sex workers and any other disfavoured group because it's what protects our ability to communicate with each other.
Oz: In building the search engine, I'd like to try and encourage more sex workers to build their own personal websites because I see the benefit in it myself that as my own website has improved in search ranking, I'm relying a lot less on directories and a lot less on social media. It feels like something that I personally own and I'm a lot more motivated to work on it. I think the main stepping stone that discourages people from doing that themselves as they feel that it's too complicated to work on SEO. They think they're going to be permanently on page 100 and nobody will ever see their site. I know you've had a lot of success with your own blogging with Plausible. I was wondering if you have any hints about how to promote a blog and get better ranking.
Cory: I think this is a huge problem. I think that we have seen a sharp decline in Google search quality and Google having 90% of all search means that we're seeing a huge decline in search more broadly. There have been a lot of people who've been writing about the failures of Google in respect of SEO.
Giselle Navarro runs this website that's really good, that reviews air purifiers, called ‘This House Fresh’ and consistently her extremely careful reviews where they have a lab and they do a lot of you know very serious technical analysis get weighted below like Forbes spam reviews where they just take the top 10 items off Amazon, summarize the consumer reviews and add ad affiliate links and those are the ones that Google sends people to and not to these very careful reviews.
This is happening all over the place there was just a thing this week where a bunch of smaller publishers were invited to Google for kind of workshop and they all came away from it saying you know like this was terrible. Google basically admitted that their only priority now is making you know, large brands happy that our content will never gain priority again, it doesn't matter how good it is.
I think if this is one of those things where you do not have an individual fix, what we have is the Department of Justice convicting Google of being a monopolist over its search engine and demanding, among other things, that Google be broken up.
I think that's the kind of thing that we need to be engaging with here, that you don't solve SEO by getting better at SEO. You solve SEO by making SEO less important. There is a lot of movement on this, both in the EU and in the US. So I know these are obscure wonky issues, but there are issues that we really need people to engage on.
Oz: Absolutely. I wish it was as simple as just writing quality content that people want to read from start to finish, which is what I advise people to do when they ask what to do with their blog. But as you say, the algorithm is gameable, and there are people out there that are very smart and very good at that, that figure out how to pass off something that they've built with a bot or containing basically spam, which will end up higher up in search results than quality content.
Cory: Yeah. No, I agree. I mean, you know, Google has been saying, oh, just make quality content since the year dot. I've been I've been hearing them say this forever and ever. And, you know, I think it was a cop-out when it started. I think it's a much bigger cop-out now. You know, I think when it started, it was legitimately that there was a small group of technical people who were kind of connected through social bonds to Googlers who wanted to know why their content wasn't rated more highly. It was literally just a way for Google to get out of awkward party conversations where someone said I made the ultimate cat website so why isn't it the top cat website on Google, they could just say make your content better.
These days, it's just a fig leaf right around the fact that they are under-investing in blocking SEO, that they themselves are selling two-thirds of the front page to the highest bidder instead of preferring the best content.
If you go back to the PageRank paper, which was the paper that Larry Page and Sergey Brin wrote in 1998 about the search engine that they just built, there's an appendix where they say advertising-based search engines are serving two masters, quality and sell the results, and the advertising is always going to win at the expense of search quality, and website search engines should not be advertising supported.
They understood it in 1998, more than a quarter of a century since they made this prediction, and it's come true.
Oz: That's when they were saying, do no evil. That seems to have gone by the wayside a bit.
Cory: Well, “don't be evil”, and it's an interesting distinction because the difference between do no evil and don't be evil is the recognition that you might slip up and do something wrong, but you will do it out of good faith.
You know, anyone capable of making a mistake, but everyone should strive to operate in good faith to make a better world, which is where their other motto, ‘which is organize the world's information and make it useful’, comes in.
So maybe, in that process, they'll inadvertently doxx someone or something or, you know, promote some spam or something, but they should always be striving to do it.
If you look at the memos from the DOJ case, the antitrust search case against Google, you see that there's this fight in 2019 where Google's advertising revenue was dropping off, and the reason it was dropping off, their growth was slowing was because they had 90% search market share. You can't grow once you've got 90% search market share, right? You don't get more. It's not like the remaining 10%, those people just haven't heard of Google, and once you reach them, you'll grow to 100%. Like, at 90%, that's as high as you're going to go.
Those people understand what Google has to offer, and they haven't chosen.
So that's it. You reach maximum growth, and so the only way to grow from there is not by growing market share, but by growing revenue per customer in the Google memos in the DOJ case, you see that the head of advertising revenue is butting heads with the head of search, and the head of advertising revenue is saying, if we were to make the search quality lower so that it took more than one search to find what you were looking for, we would generate more ads. Because instead of finding it in one search and then leaving, and we only show you four ads, you would do three searches and we'd show you 12 ads. The head of search is like, no, we can't do that. I've been with the company since it was a search server under a desk at Stanford, I've grown it to here, I refuse, and he gets fired. And the head of revenue becomes the head of search.
If you look back to 2019, that's about when Google search quality started to drop off. This is a big piece of the DOJ case against Google, not just that they were raising prices, but they were low on quality.
I think that this just make good web pages stuff was never great, but it's been significantly less true ever since this regime change, where we saw an emphasis on increasing the number of times you had to search for something rather than increasing the quality of the results that you got from your search.
Oz: I'll keep trying to make quality content anyway, just because it's something that I like to do. And I hope that people are reading it and finding some value in my work. And you never know maybe Google's algorithm will reward me for it.
Cory: Yeah, or maybe we'll just get rid of Google and there'll be more than one way to find information on the internet and other people will have a better theory as to how to do that. I prefer that.
I really like Kagi. I think it's a really good search tool. It's not free. It's $10 a month, but I love it. I've been using it since last spring and I've accidentally switched back to Google once or twice in my search bar on Firefox and I noticed it immediately because the search quality was so poor. Even before I noticed that the logo at the top was different, I was like, oh, the search results suck. And then I look over at the top of the page and I'm like, oh, I'm on Google.
Oz: I'll look them up for sure, Kagi. Nice one.
Thank you very much Cory for your time and sharing loads of really interesting information. All the best too with your new book and with your kids' college applications.
Cory: Well, thank you very much.
Oz: And thanks again for talking to me.
Cory: I appreciate that. Have a great day.
Oz: You too. Have a great day.
Cory: Thank you. Bye.
Oz: Bye.
My Thoughts
It was a real pleasure and privilege to speak with Cory. He's so knowledgeable and eloquent and I'm very pleased that we were able to find so much common ground in terms of the Venn diagram of his expertise as a campaigner for digital rights, privacy, and freedom of expression and my own understanding and interests related to sex workers facing discrimination on mainstream social media platforms, the political landscape as pertaining to policies and regulations likely to impact sex workers ability to do our jobs safely and lawfully, and our access to, and use of, online spaces, banking and our rights to privacy.
Every hyperlink in the text above is a link to more information on the topics we discussed. Many of the links lead back to Pluralistic, Cory's blog, which I highly recommend following via RSS or email newsletter.
Cory's ideas around coalitions have given me a lot to think about.
I really hope he's right about the lack of quality coalitions and conflicts of interest within the Trump regime meaning that Project 2025 is unlikely to ever happen.
If you're reading this and you're a sex worker or a client or a sex worker ally, please vote in elections. Please find out which politicians have policies that are pro sex work and vote for them. Or at least figure out which candidate has the policies that are the worst for sex workers and vote for someone else.
If you ever want to know how an election or referendum is going to turn out, ask me. Whatever I tell you, assume that's wrong and the exact opposite will happen.
Also, don't let me anywhere near your fence (principle). I really would kick down the fence without knowing why it's there. I genuinely wish "democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms" wasn't true. There has to be something better than career politicians making promises they have no intention of keeping, getting into office and achieving nothing because other career politicians block every proposal based not on merit but purely based on perceived threat to their own political aspirations. I still think my sortition idea is worth a shot and I'd tear down every border on earth and put an AI in charge of the entire planet if I thought we'd end up with something more like Ian M Banks, The Culture and less like Donald Trump. But I'm an uninformed weirdo so I'll do my best to read more about how democracy actually works from actual experts like Cory and hopefully, for all our sakes, nobody will listen to my ideas about politics.
Regarding coalitions between sex workers and other disfavoured minorities (I very much dislike this term. Not that it's inaccurate but because it's so unjust that consenting adults trying to do business like any other sole trader should be "disfavoured"), I think following Cory's advice here could really reap rewards for us in terms of finding a path to decriminalisation of sex work and a future where we are legally protected from financial discrimination, have equal access to online platforms and the ability to insist that escort directories provide proper data security and adhere to privacy policies where our identities are not going to be sold to spammers or handed over to the feds without any kind of subpoena.
But who can we form coalitions with? Which groups face similar problems to sex workers while sharing similar enough values that we could work together to achieve our goals? Industries me might consider forming coalitions with could include Cannabis and marijuana product suppliers, Online dating and social networking, Online gaming, SEO and online marketing services, Crypto, Gambling and online casinos, Web design companies, E sports and sites and applications using AI/neural networks/large language models/machine learning.
All of the above are considered high risk merchant categories by credit card companies. Mentioning any of the above on social media is likely to lead to a shadowban. Legislation around these products and services is complicated, ever changing and inconsistent. I think we could easily find some common ground with any, or all, of the above and stand united in pursuing some common goals.
Following on from speaking with Cory about flags of convenience, I spoke to Adult Biz Law, regarding how to go about registering Sex Worker Search as an offshore company. I also got them to confirm that the requirements sent to me by a certain payment portal provider seem to be legit and that business is known and trusted in the industry so I seem to now have a path to monetising SWS which I'm very happy about. My main motivation with SWS is to encourage more sex workers to promote via their own personal websites and rely less, or not at all, on escort directories with terrible customer service and dodgy privacy policies or on hypocrite social media that makes billions from our content while treating us like criminals. If I can start charging for premium listings to appear above other search results, that will take SWS to the next level and I hope enable me to use SWS as a force to do a lot of good in the online sex work advertising space.
The DOJ case suing Visa for anti trust is potentially a really big deal for sex workers. If we end up with more competition between payment providers, we could end up being able to easily receive credit and debit card payments directly from clients via our own personal websites. No more handing over 30% of every payment to giant corporate digital pimps like Onlyfans.
Cases like this need our support. If you're in the UK, I recommend joining the Sex Workers Union (SWU) and getting involved in lobbying for issues that affect us eg the recent move by the UK finance regulator to warn banks against discriminating against sex workers wanting to open business accounts was thanks in part to lobbying from SWU. In USA the Free Speech Coalition does a lot of incredible work protecting the rights and freedoms of the adult industry and they could really use your support.
I find the concept of adversarial interoperability absolutely fascinating.
When reddit announced their plans to charge for access to their API, I spoke with the other moderators on /r/sexworkers and /r/sexworkersonly and we made the subreddits private in protest along with over 7000 other subreddits in the hope that our 500,00 users along with millions more users of other subreddits no longer generating any ad revenue might give reddit the hint that we like using third party services that depend on the API and did not want to see these apps driven out of business.
We failed.
But the blackout did give me motive to leave sexworkersonly as private and now only verified sexworkers have access so it has become a valuable resource enabling us to speak about topics like screening and blacklists in a space which non sexworkers including dangerous clients who might use the information there to figure out how to circumvent our security cannot access.
The blackout plus other sex work related subreddits getting banned leading up to the IPO, also inspired me to create a backup of /r/sexworkers so that if the entire subreddit ever gets banned, sex workers will still have access to all the posts and comments there. Doing so is technically against the rules on reddit but there's 14 years worth of knowledge on there. Losing it would be like watching the library of Alexandria burn down.
These are examples of adversarial interoperability for sex workers.
I think creating products, services, or systems that are designed to interoperate with an existing platform, system, or technology without the permission or cooperation of the original creator, eg reverse-engineering, creative workarounds, or using open standards to make different technologies compatible, are all worthy pursuits that I would love to see more of when it comes to online platforms used by sex workers.
The mass exodus of sex workers leaving twitter for Bluesky continues. Cory's thoughts on platforms making it as difficult as possible for their users to leave will ring true for all the sex workers leaving twitter. Many of us have put in immense amount of time and effort into building up our twitter accounts only to be rewarded with shadowbans. Having now reached the point where we have almost zero engagement, no new followers apart from bots, no visibility in search or on feeds, twitter has rendered itself completely useless to us. So there does come a time when we have to cut our losses and just leave no matter how hard big tech tries to make the move.
I've emailed Bluesky to ask whether sex workers are welcome on their app, or whether they will start shadowbanning us like Twitter. Here is our conversation. They replied and said adult content creators are welcome. I have emailed back and asked what about in person providers and gave them my best pep talk about why I hope they won't become another twitter. I hope to receive a positive response. Let's see. This conversation was inspired by Cory's ideas about social media and could lead to us having a social media space where we're welcome.
I've been putting a lot of work into SEO lately using AHREFS and Yoast to try to make all my websites as compliant as possible with Google algorithms tastes. It really does not sit well with me that those tastes are largely concerned with training googles bot to respond to people's search queries and discourage them from clicking on links to sites like mine so they'll stay on google and generate more ad revenue at the expense of myself and other sex workers and anyone with a website not getting any visitors to our websites. The algorithm is effectively bullying us into rendering ourselves obsolete. Cory's words on the subject of SEO for google really opened my eyes to how badly I wish not to help google get bigger and richer. The case going on at the moment with DOJ trying to make google sell Chrome and become less of a monopolist supervillain, could be a real gift to sex workers. If other, less anti sex work search engines get bigger pieces of the web search pie, we might get some hard earned rewards for those of us who have built our own personal websites.
I switched from using Google for search, to using Kagi, on Cory's recommendation and the difference is night and day. The top results on google are almost always some kind of spam, scam, fake news, or just disappointing content that's very high on SEO optimisation but very low on actually conveying any useful information.
All the links in the text above were found via Kagi.
Kagi results tend to take you directly to real content, written by real humans who have made an effort to convey actual information intended for other humans to read and understand. Try the free 100 searches and see if you think it's worth $10 per month for unlimited access.
After the interview, I went out and bought a copy of Little Brother. I'm currently in Dubai and it was nice to spend time relaxing by the swimming pool getting some vitamin D and reading about teenage hackers going up against draconian measures taken by the authorities to spy on, and take away the civil liberties of, the general public. It's a brilliant book. Great fun to read and highly recommended. Somewhat disconcertingly, for a book published in 2008, everything described within as a worst case scenarios for how things could go if we don't defend our rights to privacy are all completely normal parts of our day to day lives now in 2024. With the exception of facial recognition which Little Brother said was deemed too invasive so gait recognition was used instead. Now facial recognition anywhere and everywhere is normal too.
If you take anything away from this interview, I hope it's a sense of optimism that if sex workers do work together, form some quality coalitions, vote, support organisations fighting for our rights and make a habit of asking questions and standing up for ourselves when platforms we use online show no respect for our privacy or our rights to safely advertise and effectively conduct our business, and maybe hack a little when needs be, we can win. Even vs the biggest of big tech. We can even win in our pursuit of decriminalisation of sex work everywhere and win the fight for changes to policy and legislation that would grant us the access to payment providers as other businesses and the right to use websites and apps in the same way as any other legal business. These goals are not unreachable and ideas like those proposed here by Cory could really help us to achieve our goals.
Maverank Adult SEO kindly agreed to an interview on the topic of search engine optimisation for independent sex workers.
Here is our conversation.
Oz > Thank you for agreeing to speak with me today.
Maverank> Thanks for having me! Excited to get started 😁
Oz > So for my Oz website, for SEO, I blog regularly, use Yoast and follow all their recommendations, keep images small and try to encourage backlinks, do link exchanges, get lots of links every month by doing Elust etc. I have Ahrefs and have tried to follow their recommendations too but find that all quite complicated. I'm curious how your SEO audit works and would love to hear your recommendations. I'm very curious about your audit. Is the Maverank SEO audit your own invention or a third party site?
Maverank> Audit's a standard agency process. I'd usually ask for GA4/GSC logins if you have them but for SW discretion this is something you will only want to grant once the contract is signed.
So the whole point of SEO should be to drive and build your audience toward your key service offerings, ideally from most to least margin.
For SWs I'd balance that with from least to most annoying as an overnight/FMTY can be lucrative but intense.
Oz > Agreed. My preferred services are duos, couples, cuckolding and forced bi so those are the terms I target.
Maverank> My SEO auditing style starts by looking at your existing content strategy, identifying gaps, and creating a content plan to address the gaps in line with the point of SEO and your own business goals.
I also always ask at a minimum: are there any particular services you'd like to grow, locations to target, or buyer personas you have in mind for your business?
Oz > For now the search terms above are my main target but I'm working on trying to get a payment processor to work with sexworkersear.ch so if that works out I'll set up credit card payments on ozinlondon.co.uk too and then I'll be looking to work on keywords related to selling video clips.
Maverank> Excellent, let's start there. You mentioned forced bi on your homepage but ideally you'd have a dedicated service page for each of your main services. This can be as simple as incalls and outcalls, or as niche as sounding or ABDL.
Whatever the service, a keyword is a keyword but spamming your site with keywords won't cut it with Google's current algorithms. You want to methodically break down said keyword into all the relevant queries your client may have about your service. Off the top of my head, this would include:
- location and disabled access
- discretion and privacy
- kink shame and anxiety
- kink safety and training
- rates and special offers
To organise all this info you need to use
H1s, H2s and H3s tags.
These are topical headings like you'll see in Wikipedia, word or a mommy blog (they look sweet but they don't play about their SEO).
Oz > That's a good idea. Currently I just have categories within the blog for those services so each post on a topic eg cuckolding is tagged and clicking the tag returns a list of all previous posts tagged with that word. But I like the idea of having them as menu items too.
Maverank> You should have blogs around each service page and they should crosslink to demonstrate expertise and detailed coverage of your niche.
The same can be done with location/FMTY pages (Tyler Badwolf does this quite well) as well as any industry pages of you're an non SW adult business (i.e. sex toys for adults venues, sex toys for party planners).
Oz > I've neglected internal linking in the past. Just getting into the habit now of including at least a few internal links in each post.
Maverank> Internal linking is important because it tells search crawlers which parts of your site you want to pass link juice (ew) to.
Link juice (ew again) is essentially your recommendation of that content. For SWs this is why publishers like VICE use nofollow so this does not happen.
Adult sites tend to be seen as less reputable by Google search, though I'd argue part of this is poor SEO optimisation.
As an aside, there may be parts of your own site you don't want to rank or that aren't as important. In these cases, you can use nofollow on certain internal links (though this is almost never necessary) or no noindex and disallow to stop the pages appearing and being crawled by google.
Oz > I'm looking at moving my sites to headless wordpress with astro soon so that should improve page load speeds and hence SEO too?
Maverank> In terms of load speed, I'd argue that the hosting platform (generally) doesn't matter so much as content. Same with backlinking- Google has deprecated their status as a ranking factor.
The main thing is to ensure that you keep plugins to a minimum, that APIs are well connected and that any direct uploads to your site are done at the minimum filesize. Usually this means:
- embed, don't upload videos (i.e. pornhub/YouTube)
- make images jpg or webp
- reduce/eliminate animations and any autoplaying audio
Oz > I always use webp and no videos or gifs directly uploaded just a few embedded in posts. Good point.
Do you know what the algorithm looks at as most important factors now?
Maverank> The main focus is content, and technical and links to a lesser extent.
For content, focus on:
- whether you have a unique or more extensive take on the given topic you want to rank for
- the logical structure and flow of this information;
- niche but high intent related keywords in addition to larger volume keywords;
- adherence of writing style to Natural Language Processing (how machines read and understand text). While you're writing for your client, it's more like telling a gossipy friend who then tells your client for you
Oz > Thank you. That's really interesting. The last point especially. I hadn't thought of that. I want my posts to be appealing to humans and as I understand it, the algorithm knows whether people stay on page and read posts start to finish so holding their attention is important. But I also want my posts to work with natural language processing too.
I do use ChatGPT a lot and find it invaluable but I wouldn't publish whole paragraphs written by AI. I use it more for research and editing. And image generation.
Maverank> You can definitely use AI to plan and write your content calendar but I'd recommend hand finishing each blog because we have the lived experience that brings granular context. Remember, you always want to be saying more than the competition or the same with a different take.
Oz > Agreed. Fortunately there's not much competition for cuckolding and forced bi but it pays to always aim for the best quality, highest authority posts. You've given me a lot of great ideas and things to think about. Thank you so much.
Maverank> Yes but SEO is also a game of oneupmanship- down the line someone may do competitor analysis on your site and outwrite you. It's partly why most sites no longer do keyword tags on their pages.
For low competition SERPS (first page search results) you want to outwrite what's already there. Before writing/editing any page:
- get the html page structure (heading structure) of the top 3-5 competitor pages
- read a few Reddit/forum posts in the SERPS to identify unusual queries and pain points you can cover in your content
- use keyword research tools (keysearch is cheaper but not as good) and ai to generate keywords that are relevant to yout page. Don't worry so much about keyword volume as relevance and interrelation
Oz > Thank you. That's excellent advice. I have Ahrefs now but it is expensive. I'll look at KeySearch.
Maverank> It's not as good but you won't get amazing data for SW related terms unless you're more of an e-commerce brand or fansite creator. You can also list down your keywords, use AI to generate related, and paste them all into your keyword research tool to get search volumes.
Oz > How would I know whether something I've written adheres to a style that natural language models rate as high quality?
Maverank> I mentioned on Reddit, writing for NLP is a bit like being questioned by a journalist if you're a SW. Or better yet, like you're an expert on the witness stand.
You want to give short but insightful answers, using or paraphrasing your keyword where it naturally makes sense. You want to use simple language, and keep paragraphs to 2 or 3 lines where possible.
You're essentially writing a YA novel (the wrong metaphor here but it's apt) for horny grown men.
Going back to internal linking, you'll also want to do external links to reputable sources (particularly anything YMYL such as finance or physical/mental health). Academic, peer-reviewed papers or compliance/chartering bodies work best. For SW I'd mix both SW and non-SW sources.
Oz > Understood. Sort of. Yoast is good at poking me in the direction of writing like this. I do my best to follow the directions while still producing a post that a human will want to read.
Maverank> As a general SEO workflow:
- Setup Google search console, Bing webmaster, and (advanced) Google analytics and Google tag manager.
- Determine your ideal services, locations and industries (5-10 per).
- Search these in Google to identify competitors.
- Get and collate their html page structures. Remix these with your own unique ideas and any missing context. Rewrite each title in your own way, considering who/what/where/why/when/how
- Use keyword research tools to identify additional keywords.
- Write, or tell AI, to write based on these page structures. If you've done the structures and write them right it should almost feel like an interrogative.
- Index these in Google search console and Bing webmaster tools.
- Repeat 2-5 for related blog topic.
Remember to create/edit pages from highest to lowest margin unless they're seasonal or time based.
For blogging cadence aim for 1-4 per month. They will each take about 4-6 hours to do in an SEO optimised way, half the time with the right AI prompt.
Excel/Google sheets will be your bestest friend to organise. Use a timer and take breaks if you have ADHD like me.
(re taking card payments on Oz and SWS) This is an amazing idea! The holy grail is a self-hosted fansite where you own the traffic, profit and audience (reducing trolls and other foolishness).
Oz > It's hard. I've spoken to dozens of payment processors that say they work with high risk merchants and they all said no. Most said they can't work with anything escort industry. One called ticklecharge said they might be able to help but they're asking for a lot of personal and business details from me so I'm going to get a lawyer to look at what they're asking for before I proceed.
Maverank> RE processors we know this changes hourly but Paxum and ccbill have been going for a while now.
Oz > Ccbill said no unfortunately. Paxum never replied to my email but that's a good call. I'll try to find alternate contact details and ask them again.
Maverank> It's such BS and it's choking the market with corrupt, entrenched and inefficient platforms.
I'm supposed to be professional though so I'll say that you may have more bargaining power if you can evidence major demand for your site, or use your network (particularly your SW friends who straddle the line between sex and tech) to lobby on your behalf behind the scenes.
The lawyer is an excellent idea, and should be one of the first things anyone attempting to setup a platform like this does.
Maverank> Thanks for having me on! I didn't cover everything but if anyone wants to find me they can email me on [email protected]. I'm a SWer too and I want to help my community!
Oz > This is a worthy goal! I really want to see sex workers succeed on their own terms building their own personal websites rather than just giving away money to directories and free content to hypocrite social media companies that make billions from our content and treat us like undesirables. Viva la SEO optimised independent sex worker personal website!
Maverank> I agree, the directories just don't cut it anymore, particularly if you're outside of a major city, and SEO will reduce your long term spend. This is why so many FSSWs leave the directories behind once they gain a decent following. That said, social platforms are capricious so it's very important you drive traffic to your own site where you can.
You should also capture traffic where you can with an email or text list, and backup this list regularly. This will future proof your site/socials in case of a van. You should regularly communicate here, even if it's just once a week, with content to maintain repeat sales and bookings.
Oz > This is the way. Thank you very much for sharing your time and valuable expertise. Have a good evening.
You too and thanks for having me on! It was fun.
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The Free Speech Coalition (FSC) is the trade association of the adult entertainment industry. The FSC is based in USA but involved in issues that concern sex workers worldwide.
FSC's stated mission is to protect the rights and freedoms of the adult industry. Their vision is of a world in which body sovereignty is recognized, sexual expression is destigmatized, and sex work is decriminalized.
Mike Stabile is a journalist and documentary filmmaker who has written about and advocated for sex workers and sexual speech for over a decade. His work has been published in a wide range of publications, including the Daily Beast, Salon, Buzzfeed, Playboy and the New York Times. He has handled communications for the Free Speech Coalition since 2013.
Mike has kindly agreed to respond to some interview questions regarding the FSC, issues concerning the adult industry and specifically in person providers and how we, as sex workers, can work to protect our own rights and freedoms in the face of often discriminatory policy.
Here is the interview =
Hi Mike,
Thank you very much for agreeing to this interview.
I can't commend FSC enough for all you've done for the adult industry throughout your 30 year history. What would you rate as FSC's greatest success to date, and why?
I think the development of the testing system — now its own organization, PASS — was a really important milestone, historically. Not only has it protected tens of thousands of performers over the years, it also helps us fight the notion that the industry is only interested in profit.
Over the years, we've stopped and blocked a lot of terrible legislation — laws that would have allowed police to arrest legal-age performers for looking too young, laws that allowed the government to raid adult businesses without a warrant, laws that would have allowed citizens to sue performers for not using condoms. But the fights we're facing right now, over age-verification, may be our biggest yet. Despite the stated good intentions, these are old school censorship laws meant to hobble sex workers and sexual speech.
What do you wish more sex workers knew about FSC and the goals you are trying to achieve?
I wish more sex workers understood that we can fight and win. I think a lot of people in the sex industry are resigned to bad laws, to unstable banking, to stigma and discrimination. The most important thing that we can do as an organization is show them the history — the battles that we've won, the progress that we're making — and get them energized for the fight.
What would you say is the most urgent goal that needs to be achieved for the adult industry worldwide before all others?
I think that financial discrimination is possibly the biggest issue for the adult industry as a whole. It's hard to survive when you're constantly losing banking, when you can't take payments, when you're forced to hand over a percentage of your income to intermediaries. If you can't build a business, if you can't build equity, if you can't access credit, you're always going to be scrambling. And it affects everyone. Of course, for those working in criminalized sectors, decriminalization is likely going to be an even higher priority.
I was pleased to see back in August that the Australian Government decided not to go for age verification. Of course I support keeping children safe online but there are much better ways to do this (eg content filtering software) than heavy handed age gating in a way detrimental to everyone's privacy and security. Especially sex workers where we, and our clients, value discretion highly. I tried my best to help stop the “Online Safety Bill” from happening here in UK via promoting a petition to parliament on my socials, blogs, whatsapp broadcasts and via the sexworkers and sexworkersonly subreddits where I'm a moderator but sadly the bill was passed. It could be a big threat to encryption and many resources we use as sex workers could change drastically in nature or be lost altogether under the new laws. How bad do you think the Online Safety Bill will be for sex workers in UK and what would you recommend that our priorities should be once the laws come into effect?
We have to see how implementation happens, so all eyes really need to be on Ofcom right now. We need to make sure we have a seat at that table. Politicians love to pass laws like this — as they did in Australia — only to have regulators discover that there are significant practical considerations that the legislators didn't account for. I suspect there will be court challenges over the OSB, likely from Big Tech platforms and civil rights groups. And hopefully they'll have success in blunting it. But in the short term, we need to work with the agencies who are enforcing it to highlight the issues its causing for sex workers as well as platforms.
Sexworkersear.ch is a search engine indexing the personal websites of independent, in-person providers. For example escorts, Pro Dommes, Professional submissives and sensual masseuses. FSC's vision of “a world in which body sovereignty is recognized, sexual expression is destigmatized, and sex work is decriminalized” is our dream too! Which specific projects are happening at FSC that are most relevant to in person providers and how can we help?
More than anything, we need to hear your stories. I can't tell you how powerful it is to go to a regulator or legislator with actual stories of discrimination. You can talk all day long about theoretical problems and the principles, but being able to share real-life stories — of success, of discrimination, of censorship — really crystallizes the issue. It also helps us understand and map the problem.
Thank you again for your time and for all your efforts in protecting the rights and freedoms of businesses and individuals in the adult industry.
Regards,
Oz
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